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post #21 of 155 Old 04-30-2015, 04:29 PM
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No manufacturer uses the term semi-synthetic.
It's a marketing hype, to call it "synthetic", but that's just what they are.
Fully synthetic oil is almost as light as water, and colorless.
It has almost no additives in it.
Some companies, like Spectro and a few others, do use the term "Semi-synthetic", as in Spectro's "Golden 4 Semi-synthetic". Most companies use the term "Blended Synthetic" to denote the same thing.

http://www.spectro-oils.com/golden-semi-synthetic/
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Aprilia bikes come with AGIP 5W40 full synthetic. Not only those bikes, but almost everything Piaggio makes from the Sportcity 50cc scooter to the RSV-4 Factory race bike. Somehow those engines all seem to get broken in. My Prius and Honda Civic both came with full synthetic oil too. I'm old enough to remember when you had to warm up cars for quite a while or they wouldn't even go. Besides fuel injection, I think engines are just made better these days. One does need to be wary of dealer recommendations however. The oil that's recommended is always the oil they make the most money on when you buy it from them. Yamalube, a blend, is probably good oil, but I bet its really cheap when bought in bulk. Also putting synthetic in new cars allows the dealer to offer "free" oil changes in part because they schedule the first oil change for 10,000 miles plus it puts additional space between oil changes if you have a service contract that covers scheduled maintenance. Still, I'm sold on full synthetic oil.
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Yes, the filters I mentioned fit fine. I put a Fram filter on until the 600 mile oil change. Only thing is the Fram PH6017A is slightly longer, but there is plenty of room at the front of the filter for any length filter you might want.
Check out the bike compatibility chart here:

http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetai...b=F&pn=PH6017A

I haven't been able to source the OEM Yamaha filter. I need to do an oil change this week.
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I think the OEM Honda filter will fit. (From looking at he bikes that are listed in that link I posted. I have had 16 Hondas and they all used the same filter and those bikes are listed in that link.)

In the past I have used the Mobil One M1-108 or M1-110 filter.

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html

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Oil Filters that fit most Japanese bikes have 20 x 1.5mm threads, 14 psi by-pass valve, anti-drain back valve, gasket diameter approximately 2.3 inches, O.D. approximately 2.75 inches, length approximately 2.5 to 3.5 inches.
http://vfrworld.com/tex_vfr/tech/oilfilter.htm
http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles...520exposed.pdf
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Check out the bike compatibility chart here:

http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetai...b=F&pn=PH6017A

I haven't been able to source the OEM Yamaha filter. I need to do an oil change this week.
I crossed the Fram # to a Napa Gold 1358 and it worked beautifully

You WILL need an oil filter wrench to remove the factory installed filter.

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Anyone have the oil change + filter oil amount for a change?
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Anyone have the oil change + filter oil amount for a change?

Not in the owners manual?

I blame the Internet.
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I'm sure it is.... I'll look it up later and add it here cause why not. I'll have this forum at my fingertips 24/7, not the manual.

And I'm a Rotella guy too. Non syn Wally World stuff. Cheap and good. It used to be the recommended oil for KTM back in the day. Been using it for years on all my bikes and cars, trucks. I was an Amsoil dealer, did the Mobil one thing before that. Seen it all. Cheap fresh oil is find. You have to search high and low to find bad oil in the USA today. I haven't seen any in decades.

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2.22 qts. (1.9L), per the factory srvc. manual. But I changed mine last week (to full syn.) and it only took 2 qts. with a new filter.
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1.8l without
2.1 with oil filter change.
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