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post #11 of 35 Old 04-08-2016, 01:23 AM
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Doubt it on this one. Woods has a loading/unloading dock.
Do you honestly believe once the bike leaves the freight truck, it never gets moved around? Bikes are constantly moved. Sometimes several times in one day. New bikes get un-crated, and they all filter through the service department for PDI. Some of them get transported in trucks or trailers before they are sold. They can be moved from one dealer to another dealer. The "loading dock" is only one small step in their long journey to your garage.

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Google Tesla direct sales ban for more.
You KNOW all the franchise owners will lobby like crazy to prevent "direct-to-customer" sales paths.
This would put them out of business.

THIS quote says it all:
"Like Tesla, Elio Motors does not intend to establish an independent dealer network, but rather plans to pursue a direct customer sales plan to keep down the price of its products."

This one single change would revolutionize the industry.
Owner-robbers will tell you it would kill tons of jobs. But the peasants working for them don't make much money anyway. The peasant workers can work in the direct-sales-chain for the manufacturer, instead of the shyster families that own the dealership franchise in the area. Owner-robbers are filthy rich. They do not share their profits. It's the standard business model in America, unfortunately.
It guarantees that the rich get richer, and the poor stay poor.

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Unlike Tesla, Elio is establishing independent service centers to take care of warranty and out of warranty repair. That is how Elio intends to get around the same sales issues that Tesla is running into. Most of the laws requiring a dealer network have nothing to do with rich dealer owners but instead have to do with consumer protection against greedy manufactures. The same rules are what is keeping countries like China from dumping a bunch of crappy low cost cars on this market and not having any service facilities to honor whatever warranty they may have. So in a way those laws do also protect jobs.


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Do you honestly believe once the bike leaves the freight truck, it never gets moved around? Bikes are constantly moved. Sometimes several times in one day. New bikes get un-crated, and they all filter through the service department for PDI. Some of them get transported in trucks or trailers before they are sold. They can be moved from one dealer to another dealer. The "loading dock" is only one small step in their long journey to your garage.
Here is a picture from when I picked up the bike Wednesday morning. If you zoom in on the muffler, the scrape/scuff is clear as day.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_...nRqSXkxY0JjZTA


And here is the picture they are using to try and prove that it was fine (taken the day before pick up, at night, in their service shop)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_...UlieTVtQzc2T28

Though, the picture they are using is irrelevant. Anything could have happened between then and when I picked it up. And the time stamp is pretty clear that it was before I had even sat on the bike.

... **** this is going to hurt.
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I must have one of the good dealers over here,a week after i picked my bike up i spotted a huge ding in the front wheel not just the paint but gouged into the metal.I took it back and said to the manager(who sold me the bike at a £400 discount because they had to register it to the shop so i could have a test ride and it was secondhand when i bought it back with 40m on the clock hence the discount) if anything had hit that while i was riding not only would i have felt it it would have hit the fairing and damaged that and it hadn't,anyhow he said leave it with me and i'll see what i can do.When i picked it up after it's first service a couple of weeks later he said oh by the way we stuck you a new wheel in,Happy Days.
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Update to the issue with the scuffed muffler.
Woods has offered to give me a new muffler off the next R3 they get in, or get me a discount on an aftermarket one.
It sounds kind of shady to give me one off a new one, doesn't that **** the next guy? Or maybe there is more to it than that.

I'm going to text them now and ask them what kind of aftermarket parts they have access to, and what kind of discount rates.
I know the factory muffler is just over $200 before shipping. I think I'd almost rather just have the stock muffler and get out with 0 cost to me.

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They're probably going to just swap it with the new bike they get it. You're not really going to get that good of sound or performance from a slip on exhaust on a 320cc parallel twin. Take it back and swap it if it bothers you that much. There's much better things to spend money on than an exhaust IMO

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They're probably going to just swap it with the new bike they get it. You're not really going to get that good of sound or performance from a slip on exhaust on a 320cc parallel twin. Take it back and swap it if it bothers you that much. There's much better things to spend money on than an exhaust IMO
I agree. The only exhaust I really want is the Yoshimura R77.

But I've had the bike for a total of 2 days, so that is really one of the last things on my list.

The best mod I can do to my bike, is to learn to ride the f***ing thing.
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The best mod I can do to my bike, is to learn to ride the f***ing thing.
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Here is a picture from when I picked up the bike Wednesday morning. If you zoom in on the muffler, the scrape/scuff is clear as day.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_...nRqSXkxY0JjZTA


And here is the picture they are using to try and prove that it was fine (taken the day before pick up, at night, in their service shop)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_...UlieTVtQzc2T28

Though, the picture they are using is irrelevant. Anything could have happened between then and when I picked it up. And the time stamp is pretty clear that it was before I had even sat on the bike.
First, did you read any customer reviews on Woods before trying to deal with them ? The last time I considered getting a bike from Woods the ratings were so bad that I didn't feel I could trust them. I just checked on Yelp and they still get awful reviews.

Second, there are many good and honest motorcycle dealers everywhere. Some are terrible, some are wonderful, and most fall somewhere in the middle- buyer beware. Austin City Powersports is a great place to get work done- they do not sell new bikes but they are very honest and competent on service work.

Third, from what I can see in the pics you posted, the scrape on the muffler doesn't look too bad ( maybe it is worse that the pics show . . . ) - if it was my bike I would just spray some hi-temp black paint on it and forget it. The more times you go back to Woods to get things done- the more frustrated you will become.

Lastly, nice bike- have fun with it !
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