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post #11 of 25 Old 01-14-2018, 12:59 PM
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Also, I use the rear brake for slow speed stability, especially when u-turning.
Also, sporty bikes with monster front brakes and parking lots. All too easy to accidentally insta-stop at 2 mph.
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When I first started riding, I made it a habit to use both front and rears. Eventually learned how much pressure the rear brake can take before it locks up (really predictable when it does slide out), same goes for the front. The front can take a good amount of pressure IMO. Try going out to a parking lot and testing out the brakes.

Also-, when coming to a stop, I use a combination of engine braking + rear brake. If I need to scrub more speed, I'll lightly hold the front.

R3's engine braking is pretty strong so use it to your advantage.

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I use the engine braking a lot too but still tap the front or rear to let the car behind me know I'm slowing down, had a few come pretty close without doing this
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Yup, that's why rear brake + engine braking, works wonders lol.
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Isn't engine braking supposed to be bad? Better to grind on the brake pads then grind on the engine..no?

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And all this time I thought that pedal was just a brake light switch.
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Isn't engine braking supposed to be bad? Better to grind on the brake pads then grind on the engine..no?
It's not grinding the engine haha, you're compressing and decompressing air which slows you down [ie, if you don't pull the clutch, the engine is spinning whether you hit the brakes or not]. It's fairly pronounced with DFCO (dynamic fuel cut off) which I like, but plenty of other people don't. You can flash to remove DFCO which increases fueling and decreases engine braking. I too tap the brakes lightly just to give the car behind me a red light.
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The R3 has strong engine braking. If you downshift through the gears as you come to a stop, you barely have to touch the "brakes".
Engine braking is not harmful to the motorcycle at all. It's perfectly fine. Saves on brake pad wear!
But it's good to be in the habit of using both brakes, along with the engine braking.

If you are used to a motorcycle with strong engine braking, and then you hop-on one that has a slipper clutch,
you will be in for a surprise. My CBR has almost no engine braking. You adjust your riding technique to
whatever motorcycle you are on. I rode my R3 different than I ride my CBR.

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The R3 has way less engine braking than my 390 Duke did, that bike tried to throw me off when I let off the gas, the R3 is so much smoother. I use engine braking every time but I am curious what it would be like without any engine braking with a flash and slipper clutch, Have to learn new habbits but I'd like to give it a try. My wife likes to ride 2-up sometimes and it would make it more comfortable for her at least, and save my junk from the tank.
Speaking of, does anyone know if the R6 has strong engine braking or more than the R3?

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Btw my naked bike has a slipper clutch, and it has plenty engine braking, I use it to basically stop all the time just like the R3 did. When Kawasaki more or less removed dfco from the N300 to solve the stall-on-clutch-pull, people reported decreased engine braking (N300 has a slipper clutch). The slipper clutch should only kick in with larger forces, not just some casual slowing down around town.
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