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I just called Yamaha directly to see if I could get the inside scoop on the matter. The lady informed me that the brakes are hydraulic and not ABS. I asked her if there would be another version that would have ABS and she said that this is the first year that this bike is out, so maybe in the later years.

She could just not know or is trying to hide a secret but it sounds like no ABS at least on this year's model. What do you guys think?
 

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Surprised that a bike this new doesn't have it as standard, it's only a matter of time till you have to have ABS on a bike you buy brand new, they might as well make their bikes standard with ABS to keep their offerings consistent with that.
 

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I'm always surprised when there is no ABS. I think it should be standard on all bikes. It just seems like a basic safety feature for bikes.
 

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Having ABS is good for newer riders like myself, as I may never know if I can control the brakes in an emergency situation. There may be a version with it this year, but there are no further comments from Yamaha on the fact.
 

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I guess we'll have to wait for sure until it comes on land.
 

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Other than it being cheaper, I don't see why anyone wouldn't go for ABS. It seems like it would make sense for companies to just make ABS standard and charge people an extra $150 or whatever.
 

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Because its not a 150 dollar cost thats why... You're actually a better rider if you can elarn to stop yourself proper without ABS. If you can't do it without the aid the aid will only mask your subpar skills (sorry if that offends you)

There will be ABS though, Ninjette CBR300 both offer it as option...
 

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Because its not a 150 dollar cost thats why... You're actually a better rider if you can elarn to stop yourself proper without ABS. If you can't do it without the aid the aid will only mask your subpar skills (sorry if that offends you)

There will be ABS though, Ninjette CBR300 both offer it as option...

I have to agree with Barrett. Yamaha is not going to release a underdog bike.
 

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You have to think that this is still actually a bike aimed at 'beginners'.
It should have ABS these days really.
At the very least it shouod have the OPTION of ABS which is how most of the rivals play it.

Riders can then have the choice.
Typically though, an ABC option is up to $500 more expensive I believe but this will come down gradually.

I still can't work out why Canada doesn't have it... weird.
 

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Once you have got used to ABS, it is wise to then get bikes that also have ABS - which will probably be nearly all new bike from now on.

ABS is safer, no argument, but there is a good argument that it is good to learn on non-ABS so you develop better braking knowledge anyway.
 

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Once you have got used to ABS, it is wise to then get bikes that also have ABS - which will probably be nearly all new bike from now on.

ABS is safer, no argument, but there is a good argument that it is good to learn on non-ABS so you develop better braking knowledge anyway.
Yup.
In most cases it doesn't cost that much more to go ABS, might as well go for it while you do have the option to switch it on or off. Plus it could even help with selling in the future as that will be the type of bike people prefer.
 

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Once you have got used to ABS, it is wise to then get bikes that also have ABS - which will probably be nearly all new bike from now on.

ABS is safer, no argument, but there is a good argument that it is good to learn on non-ABS so you develop better braking knowledge anyway.
Of course its safer, especially the intelligent systems they are implementing now, I'm just saying though that relying on huge handfulls of front brake and ABS to mitigate is not even close to the proper way to ride a motorcycle. You need to understand the fundamentals before you can exploit the aids.

There is a reason why all MotoGP rookies are not allowed to use electronics on thier first early tests. They don't get TC or Wheelie control so they can understand the feel of power delivery. Only once they've trained their right wrist can they exploit the electronic pack.

Even with ABS its still much safer to be able to apply max pressure before lockup/ABS kicks in. If you're just grabbing a huge handful and the bike is modulating you're effectively lengthening your stopping distance...
 

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I know how to pump the brakes, but I have crashed in a car that has ABS before so it doesn't even save you all the time. I just figure that I would rather be safe than sorry and take the extra precaution.
 

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Another thing i would be considering is when bikes must come with ABS as standard as part of a government regulation and how the mindset of people will change when that time comes, which could make trying to sell a newer bike without ABS a bit of trouble.
 

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Another thing i would be considering is when bikes must come with ABS as standard as part of a government regulation and how the mindset of people will change when that time comes, which could make trying to sell a newer bike without ABS a bit of trouble.
I think buyers of secondhand "learner" bikes will definitely be looking for ABS. If you are buying new and can afford the ABS version, it's worth buying.
 

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I know how to pump the brakes, but I have crashed in a car that has ABS before so it doesn't even save you all the time. I just figure that I would rather be safe than sorry and take the extra precaution.
..........ABS didn't help in the car I had that aquaplaned .....

and neither when my two rear tyres blew and the car spun! .
....it should help in other situations :) .
 
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