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Hi everyone. I'm a new rider, just got my R3 and still learning. My boyfriend and I are looking into an intercom system for when I get out onto the streets. I was just wondering what peoples opinions/recommendations are. We are looking at the Sena SMH-5 at the moment as we can get 2 for just under $300AUD. Are we better off paying more money for the SMH-10 for the longer range?
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At the risk of being one of those "negative Nellys" who would really prefer that people take their riding seriously, pay attention to their surroundings, and reduce their risk of crashing - may I suggest that, as a new rider, you don't add distractions to your ride?
 

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I would go with a Sena. Sometime last year/early this year they made firmware available to make them compatible with other headsets. That is a step in the right direction for headsets IMO.

To a point I do agree with Yamamama. I myself like being focused on the bike. I have my phone in pocket, headphones in my ears, but I dont play music. I do it (mostly on previous bike that had a much louder exhaust) to use my ear buds as an ear plug, and in case I have to GPS a location, I can just pull over real quick and plug the headphones into the jack without taking my helmet off and unzipping my jacket. Now that I think about it, a bluetooth headset would be annoying for those who get alot of calls or texts.

When you start getting used to riding and have more experience, a headset could actually help you ride better, assuming you start doing rides with more experienced people. One of my friends Jeff who used to race would bring 2 headsets and coach people while we rode the canyons. Provided you arent blabbing on the intercom for the entire ride, this method could work for some people.
 

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I'm using the Sena SMH-10 and I have 0 complaints about it. Good battery life and good sound quality. I'm using the in helmet speakers but i'm going to be switching over to using the earbud setup to help reduce the wind noise in my helmet. When ever someone calls me and I tell them that i'm riding my R3 they don't believe me. The noise canceling mic is amazeing.

At the risk of being one of those "negative Nellys" who would really prefer that people take their riding seriously, pay attention to their surroundings, and reduce their risk of crashing - may I suggest that, as a new rider, you don't add distractions to your ride?
I'm going to piggyback off of Yama, I'd wait to start using a headset and blasting music and taking phone calls while riding until you are comfortable on the bike and you have built up those "spider senses" and they are 2nd nature. All though if you are going on a long ride it is nice to be able to have some music playing.
 

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Unfortunately I only have used the SMH10R so I have absolutely nothing to compare it to.

I don't know what you guys think we do on our intercoms when 2 people ride, but believe me, there is very little chatting going on.

My wife was (or is still) a newbie rider, she has been on comms since day one, and she rides lead (because that is what you are supposed to do- slow rider up front, experienced rider watching over them). I tell her where we are riding to, and coach her on her mistakes LIVE. Like when I see her braking on a curve I tell her to stop doing that. I've also stopped her from riding into people who were u-turning (when you are taking a right at an intersection, you have to yield to U-turners, she was about to go right into them but thanks to having comms I told her to stop which she promptly did.

Outside of me giving her directions, telling her to stop bad habits and saving her life we don't chat at all. In fact I told her to pay attention to what she is doing and only talk when needed. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together or at least an experienced rider to go along with them should know this.

I'm guessing that is the whole point of what TC is about as far as comms go.
 

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I have the Cardo scala rider G9X. I like it, I can't compare it to anything else though. Fairly simple to use, has voice control so you don't even have to take your hands off the bars to perform a function.


At the risk of being one of those "negative Nellys" who would really prefer that people take their riding seriously, pay attention to their surroundings, and reduce their risk of crashing - may I suggest that, as a new rider, you don't add distractions to your ride?
I've actually found the headset helpful from a safety stand point. Its only used when needed and not kept on for having a conversation. If you're not feeling well, have a mechanical issue, want to stop for gas or lunch it's easier than having the person in front of you watching you in their mirror as you try to do some terrible sign language.

My old bike died on the highway and I got separated from the group, my friend called me via the headset and I could let him know I was ok, and we figured out a meeting spot when I luckily got the bike running again. Also one time because of an inconsiderate driver who split our group up by not looking while lane changing, I missed an exit off the highway. Again my friend called me and gave me quick directions because I wasn't familiar with the area.
 

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Thanks for the info everyone. I 100% get why it would be a distraction but as a couple people pointed out, it is purely a safety thing in my experience. There will be zero chatting/music until I am comfortable riding. It's more so my boyfriend can let me know if I'm doing something wrong or warn me about things that I haven't seen etc.
With the Cardo ones, how many people can use them at a time and what is the range etc?
 

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Thanks for the info everyone. I 100% get why it would be a distraction but as a couple people pointed out, it is purely a safety thing in my experience. There will be zero chatting/music until I am comfortable riding. It's more so my boyfriend can let me know if I'm doing something wrong or warn me about things that I haven't seen etc.
With the Cardo ones, how many people can use them at a time and what is the range etc?
With my Cardo G9X I can save 9 other riders, have up to 4 people connected in the same conversation, and it has a range of 1 mile (1.6 km). The G9X is their top of the line, you may not need all the bells and whistles. I think the cheaper ones may have slightly less range but how often are you a mile apart when group riding anyways, it's a little over kill.
 

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Updating just picked up a Sena 10s for GPS directions. 3 numbers max on the speed dial./music via iPhone/built in FM-radio with presets . It works and sounds really good. I keep it at low volume not to distract myself from riding and listing to road traffic- sirens- screeching tires etc. I'll pull over and stop If I need to take or make a call.(wife)only. I usually bring the phone incase of emergency flat or worse.
 

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I have a Sena 20S, and I must say it is an impressive piece of tech. You can using voice commands only and without even pressing a button, you can seamless switch between bluetooth music, fm radio, and even connect to saved intercom pairings. Sena also can 'overlay' GPS turn-by-turn voice prompts over your music or FM radio if you have one going. Phone calls and intercom quality is amazing, although youll sometimes find that intercom range gets hindered by Line of Sight, but thats for all intercom systems. The biggest selling point in the Sena is the 'universal' clamp it comes with that will let you attach it to pretty much any helmet. Other useful features are wind-noise cancellation on voice input as well as an 'ambient' feature where you can switch the sena into a mode where outside noise picked up by the microphone on the main unit projects into your helmet is useful when communicating without an intercom.

If youre going for purely intercom function in larger groups (10+) then the Scala Packtalk is what I would recommend, as a recent firmware update now lets it support something like a 30 size intercom group.
 

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I own the SENA 20S, it's been nothing but great for me. It plays music over bluetooth as well as GPS, which is what I wanted for solo riding. The group chats with other riders that own SENA's are fantastic as well and I have been able to pair it with a chatterbox. It's definitely a pricey product though, but worth it in my eyes.
 

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Sena 20S here also. All my riding buddies use them as well. In group rides they really help. I'm usually up front and can alert the others that there's sand in a turn or a truck coming or whatever. Saved our bacon on more than one occasion. I think having the ability to communicate with your trainer is a big advantage safety wise while you're learning.

Marc
 
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