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The R3 looks like it will be amazing in the light, small-displacement category.

I love my CBR250R but to be honest it falls just a bit short on power when it comes to extended high speed running or when going up long grades or into a headwind. I use it for commuting and local touring (where it excels), but I also like to take the bike on week-long road tours (where I could use more power for passing and high speed mile-burning).

I'm wondering if the R3 could truly be the perfect bike for all of my needs.

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Hello Stichill,

The CBR250R only have 249cc while the R3 is pushing 321cc, that's a 72cc difference, or 10hp difference between the two. Ninja 300 have an edge over the cbr250r when it comes to power and the R3 have an edge on the Ninja 300 ( on paper ) we need to test the R3 to truly find out, but it's looking good so far. remember that the honda is a single piston vs 2 with the yamaha and ninja.

GW250F (248cc) < CBR250R (249cc) < CRB300R (286cc) < Ninja 300 (296cc) < Yamaha R3 (321cc)
 

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Hello Stichill,

The CBR250R only has 249cc while the R3 is pushing 321cc, that's a 72cc difference, or 10hp difference between the two.
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When you're at these horsepower levels that kind of difference is more noticeable for everyday driving than say, starting at 110hp moving to 120hp

For a comparison..

The YZF-R125 makes 15hp/9ftlbs tq @ 134 km/h top speed
The YZF-R25 makes 36hp/16.3ftlbs tq @ 173 km/h
The YZF-R3 makes 42hp/21.8ftlbs tq @ est 190 km/h
 

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Hello Everyone!

The R3 looks like it will be amazing in the light, small-displacement category.

I love my CBR250R but to be honest it falls just a bit short on power when it comes to extended high speed running or when going up long grades or into a headwind. I use it for commuting and local touring (where it excels), but I also like to take the bike on week-long road tours (where I could use more power for passing and high speed mile-burning).

I'm wondering if the R3 could truly be the perfect bike for all of my needs.

Stichill
Here's what you need to do:
1. Visit your nearest Yamaha dealership
2. Order yourself an R3 with your preferred color
3. Sit back and wait for it
4. When it arrives, ride it to break in period and you'll see what I mean ;)
 

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Welcome to the forum. I suggest you go to your nearest dealership that will have a yamaha and test ride it for an hour or preferably your normal route.
 

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People who have sat on both the Ninja 300 and the Yamaha R3 say they felt very similar. The Yamaha and CBR300R and CB300F have an inch shorter wheel base than the Ninja 300, but I don't know if that translates into an inch shorter reach to the handle bars. I doubt it. They can still play with lots of variables there. It will probably take a short person who has to reach for the ground a little and handlebars to really tell the difference. To a person 6 feet tall, all these bikes just feel small. I think Spacepod is short and he said they feel similar too. I'm just under 5'7" and rode the Ninja 300 for many miles, so I think I will be able to tell any differences in riding position, foot peg position immediately. Now to just find one. My dealer said today, there are none for sale in the US yet.


As far as the CBR250R and R3 go, many 250 riders have complained about not having passing power at highway speeds, even dropping down to 5th. The power will be noticeably better with the R3. You may still want to drop down a gear to pass faster, but I think top speed is 87 with the CBR250r and it's likely to be 105+ with the R3. That, plus the added torque and higher reving inline two-cylinder will give you plenty more passing power. I agree the real comparison will be between the Ninja 300 and the R3. Both those bikes are considerably faster than the Honda 250r. Top speed on my CB300F is 87 but it gets there pretty fast and I don't seem to have trouble passing or find myself being slowed down with hills or headwinds. The added power and torque from the 37 cc bigger engine helps, I guess.
 

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People who have sat on both the Ninja 300 and the Yamaha R3 say they felt very similar. The Yamaha and CBR300R and CB300F have an inch shorter wheel base than the Ninja 300, but I don't know if that translates into an inch shorter reach to the handle bars. I doubt it. They can still play with lots of variables there. It will probably take a short person who has to reach for the ground a little and handlebars to really tell the difference. To a person 6 feet tall, all these bikes just feel small. I think Spacepod is short and he said they feel similar too. I'm just under 5'7" and rode the Ninja 300 for many miles, so I think I will be able to tell any differences in riding position, foot peg position immediately. Now to just find one. My dealer said today, there are none for sale in the US yet.


As far as the CBR250R and R3 go, many 250 riders have complained about not having passing power at highway speeds, even dropping down to 5th. The power will be noticeably better with the R3. You may still want to drop down a gear to pass faster, but I think top speed is 87 with the CBR250r and it's likely to be 105+ with the R3. That, plus the added torque and higher reving inline two-cylinder will give you plenty more passing power. I agree the real comparison will be between the Ninja 300 and the R3. Both those bikes are considerably faster than the Honda 250r. Top speed on my CB300F is 87 but it gets there pretty fast and I don't seem to have trouble passing or find myself being slowed down with hills or headwinds. The added power and torque from the 37 cc bigger engine helps, I guess.
Did your dealer at least say when to expect things to happen?
 

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Hello Everyone!

The R3 looks like it will be amazing in the light, small-displacement category.

I love my CBR250R but to be honest it falls just a bit short on power when it comes to extended high speed running or when going up long grades or into a headwind. I use it for commuting and local touring (where it excels), but I also like to take the bike on week-long road tours (where I could use more power for passing and high speed mile-burning).

I'm wondering if the R3 could truly be the perfect bike for all of my needs.

Stichill

You're going to want a bigger upgrade than the R3. I'd suggest looking at bikes with at least 500cc. You might even want to make the jump to a 600cc/650cc bike.
 

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i think the r3 will be a step up, just not sure if it will really be worth going for. would you ever consider going for more CC's?
You're going to want a bigger upgrade than the R3. I'd suggest looking at bikes with at least 500cc. You might even want to make the jump to a 600cc/650cc bike.
More cc's is fine, more weight and size is not. More power with the same light weight and small size is ideal to me.
 

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100 miles a day is some great use to be putting your bike through, how are the roads and places you'd have to ride every day to accumulate those 100 miles?
I ride mostly in north-central Kentucky. I'm a year-round rider (on weekends) as of this winter thanks to heated glove and jacket liners.

During warm-weather riding season, I ride to work on nice days and go out for some nice local touring a couple of hours after work. On weekends I will usually do 100-150 miles a day Saturday and Sunday, weather permitting, and I do one or two 1500-mile out-of-state trips a year with a group of buddies. Pretty funny as I am the only guy on a 250cc thumper and the rest are all on 1000cc+ Harleys and BMWs.

Most of my local riding (75-mile radius) around my home turf looks like this.























 
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