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New to the forums and to the motorcycle world, so far its been a great experience and i love my R3
My question is what exhaust will get the best sound out of the R3 I am not interested on perfomance gains for that i will just buy a bigger bike when o have enough skills
From your experience and what you guys have or heard in person what brand do you guys believe gets the best sound out of the R3 ?

Thanks a lot
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New to the forums and to the motorcycle world, so far its been a great experience and i love my R3
My question is what exhaust will get the best sound out of the R3 I am not interested on perfomance gains for that i will just buy a bigger bike when o have enough skills
From your experience and what you guys have or heard in person what brand do you guys believe gets the best sound out of the R3 ?

Thanks a lot
Full systems:
Akrapovic SS(GP look)
Yoshimura R77, big silencer
Two brothers has one, not as populair

Slip on:
Akrapovic SS
Yoshimura R77
Two Brothers, "
Graves
MIVV

There are plenty of threats started about exhaust. If you scroll through them you'll be alot more informed;)
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Also, realize that the "best [insert non here]" is completely subjective. To some, the "best sound" is that of the quiet stock exhaust. To others, it may be loud, straight pipes. And there is anyone in between. You just gotta hear them yourself, in person at best, or at least in YouTube videos.
Full systems:
Akrapovic SS(GP look)
Yoshimura R77, big silencer
Two brothers has one, not as populair

Slip on:
Akrapovic SS
Yoshimura R77
Two Brothers, "
Graves
MIVV

There are plenty of threats started about exhaust. If you scroll through them you'll be alot more informed;)
None of the exhausts out there now, whether skip-on OR full system, gives you any significant HP gains just by themselves. It's the nature of the bike. So that makes it pretty much just about appearance and sound. About what makes you grin the most....

I personally don't care for the Akra, Yosh and 2Bros pipes. I've owned them all in the past and they were all WAY too loud (for me, it's all relative to what you want). I was getting people flipping me off and yelling at me for them being too loud. I didn't need the hostility...Plus it was very tiring on longer rides, even with ear plugs in.

Now, on the R3, it seems as though the majority of the sound reduction is in the muffler collector box under the bike, not in the muffler itself, so the brands I mentioned above would probably not be ridiculously loud on the R3.
The R3 without ANY muffler at all isn't really that much louder than with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1iHpeF1eZQ&feature=youtu.be

I like the Graves Hexagonal Slip-on the best of all I've seen so far but haven't heard it on an R3 yet, plus it's pricey!!!!

http://www.r3-forums.com/forum/546-.../14793-graves-motorsports-hexagonal-slip.html

I also like the DEVIL slip-ons.

http://www.r3-forums.com/forum/546-.../7417-installed-devil-evolution-d5m-slip.html

http://www.r3-forums.com/forum/546-...-devil-d5m-slip-exhaust-video-sound-test.html

For now, because I didn't want to wait for more slip-ons to become available, I went ahead and ordered an SP TADAO Power Box Lite slip-on from Webike Japan. ONLY $242 (no tax, free shipping since a friend and I went in on an order to meet the minimum for free shipping). If I like it I'll leave it on. If not, I'll swap it out later on for something else when more choices are possible.

http://japan.webike.net/products/21866528.html

I'll report on it once it arrives and I have it installed. Could be a couple weeks.
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Full systems:
Akrapovic SS(GP look)
Yoshimura R77, big silencer
Two brothers has one, not as populair

Slip on:
Akrapovic SS
Yoshimura R77
Two Brothers, "
Graves
MIVV

There are plenty of threats started about exhaust. If you scroll through them you'll be alot more informed;)
Will you record your R77 soon? :D I am one click away from ordering it as I have Yoshimura fender eliminator and want to pair it up with slip-on, I just want to make sure it wont be a complete disappointment.
I did a big run with the R77 in foresty areas here today. With a close up on the exhaust. Unfortunately, my GoPro can't translate it to the computer somehow. Stupid Hero3. Trying my best to do something via my phone. It's hard ;p

Edit: Did the best I could. The hardware I've got in this location doesn't allow me to upload all of it. It's a pity because I did 60 miles today with the GoPro on :(

What my vision is on the R77:

*The sound is good; as long as I behave with the throttle my neighbours still greet me on the street and not everyone turns their neck when I drive pass. The sound of it compared to a Delkevic on a Ninja 300 is different. Don't expect big backfires from the R77 Slip-on and don't expect to hear the bike on the freeway by yourself(which is a + for me, keeps my music on the headset on the foreground and not the noise from wind or exhaust. When in low RPM the exhaust without muffler sounds really good. It has a dark sound in it. When you accellerate full throttle the exhaust screams out the RPMs in a decent way. Let's say the slip-on makes just the right sound for a 321CC bike. I personally don't want to sound like a bigboy while only providing 35-39hp on the street

*The looks are absolutely georgeous. Because you can keep your cat. converter, the bike doesn't look naked on the bottom of it. It still keeps the look of a complete bike.

*Another point that made me keep the slip-on is that the installation takes you 5 to 10 minutes. When you buy a full system you'll be forced to do a removal of the fairings and some skill and the proper tools are required.

Why haven't I bought a full-system? Regulations local and the costs. It would costs me €960,- to buy a full system, with the risk of getting caught by the police. I was looking up to the installation aswell and when I got the slip-on at home it was a relief.

Out of 10 stars I'll give this purchase an 8. It would've been a 10 if there was a noticable power gain and I think even the slip-on is quite pricey though.
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Thanks guys for the info
I did some research around but i couldnt find what was the best sound note achieved from an exhaust thats why i went ahead and posted it
Usually inthe car world theres always an exhaust that gets more love than others when it comes to gettin the best sound of the engines maybe is too soon to find out
Also i understand theres many different tastes in my case i like a nice medium sound i guess im going to try on a few slip ons to see if it gives me that exhaust tone i am looking for since i figure going with a full system will make the bike a lot louder than what i want
and i have to admit the video with the r3 with no exhaust sounds pretty good

Thanks again

ps posted from my phone sorry about the grammar and punctuation lol
I did a big run with the R77 in foresty areas here today. With a close up on the exhaust. Unfortunately, my GoPro can't translate it to the computer somehow. Stupid Hero3. Trying my best to do something via my phone. It's hard ;p
No worries, I appreciate your consideration! really curious to hear it but take your time ;)
No worries, I appreciate your consideration! really curious to hear it but take your time ;)
Thanks mate. Technology is a bitch here. Harddisk doesn't want to save up files just at a sudden >:D
If you're new to the motorcycle/muffler/vid world, let me point out that videos won't do any justice on any muffler sound.

The difference between hearing a youtube vid and hearing say an actual full system exhaust is night and day. So much of the sound is filtered on the videos. Just know that most cases, full systems are extremely loud. Full systems without DB killers/baffles in are FREAKING extremely loud. It actually gave my wife a headache riding without the baffle (and she uses earplugs) for a day.
i'll try to get a video or sound clip of my r77 one of these days. can't seem to remember when i'm about to go for a ride, guess i just get too excited lol.
i'll try to get a video or sound clip of my r77 one of these days. can't seem to remember when i'm about to go for a ride, guess i just get too excited lol.
you have the full system right? how hard was the install? From what I have seen from STG install video it looked scary to take off the fairing for someone with no experience and a garage :)
If you're new to the motorcycle/muffler/vid world, let me point out that videos won't do any justice on any muffler sound.

The difference between hearing a youtube vid and hearing say an actual full system exhaust is night and day. So much of the sound is filtered on the videos. Just know that most cases, full systems are extremely loud. Full systems without DB killers/baffles in are FREAKING extremely loud. It actually gave my wife a headache riding without the baffle (and she uses earplugs) for a day.
Thanks for the input, I guess no matter how loud it is it wont be as sweet as 4 cylinder sound anyway.
Thanks mate. Technology is a bitch here. Harddisk doesn't want to save up files just at a sudden >:D
Hopefully it wont happen again ;) I wonder how much R77 Slip-on adds in terms of HP and torque. I imagine it is around the same level of Carbon fiber slip-on of Akra. It sure wont be anywhere near full system but still an hp is an hp
Hopefully it wont happen again ;) I wonder how much R77 Slip-on adds in terms of HP and torque. I imagine it is around the same level of Carbon fiber slip-on of Akra. It sure wont be anywhere near full system but still an hp is an hp
DISCLAIMER!!! The following isn't my opinion. It's what all the dyno runs done so far have shown. I merely compiled the figures and am simply reporting them.

ANY slip-on you install will only gain you about 1.5% in HP (that's about .56 HP based on 37 rear wheel horsepower reported for the stock R3) and ANY full system will only gain you about 3.7% in HP (that's about 1.37 HP). Sadly, some slip-ons only showed a .2 HP gain. Torque changes run from a .5% LOSS for some slip-ons (changing back pressure could possibly account for this) to a 1.6% gain for some full systems.

That's without extra tuning such as with a Power Commander, Bazzaz Z-Fi tuning, etc.

This could make a difference on the race track but would be next to un-noticeable on the street in typical riding.

Okay, now this is my opinion, but based on the facts: Slip-ons, and even full systems, for the R3, in the absence of other tuning, or performance mods such as head porting and polishing, are ALL about appearance and sound and weight savings. That's still a good thing, IMHO, just don't expect to see major, or even more than very minor, performance differences.

That being said, with a louder and better sounding exhaust you'll THINK you're going faster and accelerating quicker, though, which can definitely enhance the ride, plus you'll smile every time you look at that new, awesome-looking exhaust. As a possible added side benefit, you could get a little ego boost, or even end up with a date for the night, when that “insert the gender label of your choice here” checks you out at a stoplight.

Figure out how much that is worth to you and purchase accordingly..........
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DISCLAIMER!!! The following isn't my opinion. It's what all the dyno runs done so far have shown. I merely compiled the figures and am simply reporting them.

ANY slip-on you install will only gain you about 1.5% in HP (that's about .56 HP based on 37 rear wheel horsepower reported for the stock R3) and ANY full system will only gain you about 3.7% in HP (that's about 1.37 HP). Sadly, some slip-ons only showed a .2 HP gain. Torque changes run from a .5% LOSS for some slip-ons (changing back pressure could possibly account for this) to a 1.6% gain for some full systems.

That's without extra tuning such as with a Power Commander, Bazzaz Z-Fi tuning, etc.

This could make a difference on the race track but would be next to un-noticeable on the street in typical riding.

Okay, now this is my opinion, but based on the facts: Slip-ons, and even full systems, for the R3, in the absence of other tuning, or performance mods such as head porting and polishing, are ALL about appearance and sound. That's still a good thing, IMHO, just don't expect to see major, or even more than very minor, performance differences.

That being said, with a louder and better sounding exhaust you'll THINK you're going faster and accelerating quicker, though, which can definitely enhance the ride, plus you'll smile every time you look at that new, awesome-looking exhaust. As a possible added side benefit, you could get a little ego boost, or even end up with a date for the night, when that “insert the gender label of your choice here” checks you out at a stoplight.

Figure out how much that is worth to you and purchase accordingly..........
Haha that would be very interesting if a slip-on gets you a date. But I agree that performance improvement is the last reason to buy a SO. Weight saving, looks and maybe a bit of a louder sound is what matters. In fact from before/after videos I have seen on youtube it makes quite a significant change in terms of sound for ninja 300, which is not the case for R3. Probably it wont add much to the resale value of the bike either, correct me if I am wrong on this one.

here is a link to Akras slip-on (not the motogp one) performance in case anyone is interested

http://www.revzilla.com/assets/0001/0464/akrapovic_slip_on_exhaust_yamaha_r32015.pdf
you have the full system right? how hard was the install? From what I have seen from STG install video it looked scary to take off the fairing for someone with no experience and a garage :)
I too, am new to motorcycles in general. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 5. It's actually pretty straightforward, but be prepared to set some time aside for the installation. It would also help to have a friend assist you. Trying to hold something while simultaneously tightening a nut can be difficult at times.

I'd also highly recommend picking up a spool stand for the install. It give you more clearance, and reduces the possibility of the bike tipping over while you work on it. I picked up this exact one:

http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html

Since it's a spool stand and not a swingarm stand, you'll need to get some spools as well. This is the one I purchased, and no complaints so far:

http://www.revzilla.com/product/woodcraft-6mm-8mm-slider-spools

Good luck!
I too, am new to motorcycles in general. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 5. It's actually pretty straightforward, but be prepared to set some time aside for the installation. It would also help to have a friend assist you. Trying to hold something while simultaneously tightening a nut can be difficult at times.

I'd also highly recommend picking up a spool stand for the install. It give you more clearance, and reduces the possibility of the bike tipping over while you work on it. I picked up this exact one:

http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html

Since it's a spool stand and not a swingarm stand, you'll need to get some spools as well. This is the one I purchased, and no complaints so far:

http://www.revzilla.com/product/woodcraft-6mm-8mm-slider-spools

Good luck!
thanks for the encouragement and explanation. Did you do any fuel mapping after the full-system? I believe power commander required to do this is at least another 200-300$...
thanks for the encouragement and explanation. Did you do any fuel mapping after the full-system? I believe power commander required to do this is at least another 200-300$...
Haven't done the fuel mapping yet. Planning to go with the Power Commander, which actually has an R77 map available.
Better make an installation vid of the commander:) Curious about the way how it bypasses the system.
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