They apparently include some spacers to move them outward a bit, but without those spacers they're really "Recessed Mount" signals, and, yes, I also think they'd be very hard to see from the front.Wow! Now those put the other 'flush mount' to shame. Maybe we should call the other ones bump out or something. They look nice. But I'm not sure how safe they would for the cagers in front of you. Also at 40 bucks compared to 12-20 for the other 'flush mount'. I'll stick with what I got. But options are always nice to have! Another good find Fang!