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Nice build, now just to hit the track.
Will be doing at least two track days next year. Hopefully more


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I have doneThe Ridge on my 2002 FZ1 and my 2012 FZ1. It’s a fun track. Did pacific raceway on my 2000 CBR 929 a couple times and my 2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200
I have no doubt this will be more fun than any of those bikes.
 

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The Ridge is still my favorite track I've ridden, but I couldn't take the constant rain of the PNW, so moved to SoCal, now track riding is all I do.
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I have actually done a track day in the rain. You learn a lot about being SMOOTH on brakes, throttle and shifting. I don’t like to ride in the rain but I will when it’s cold and the streets are slick. Seems more challenging like that. I was surprised when I took the R3 out on a cold damp day on how easy it was to ride. Didn’t have one slip or uncomfortable feeling from the bike and I was riding more aggressive than I would on my bigger bikes. Oozzes confidence.
 

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The Ridge is still my favorite track I've ridden, but I couldn't take the constant rain of the PNW, so moved to SoCal, now track riding is all I do.

My first track weekend, second day was at the Ridge in the rain, I got my endorsement in January in the rain when I first started riding lol. I actually raced in the rain, and would pass people I normally couldn't in the dry racing Ninja 250s. There's no track days in the winter though in the PNW, and the rain sucks. Here in Socal, my primary track season starts now, and I raced last winter at CVMA. It's actually too hot to race in the summer here. Optimally, I'd ride and race with WMRRA at the Ridge and Pacific Raceways, and ride ORP in the Summer, and then come down to SoCal to ride and race in the Winter, but I don't have nearly the money for that luxury.
 

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Made some changes. I had my dyno tuning session on Friday. With the Toce exhaust with the modified baffle, high flow air filter . It made (with the Toce flash) 35 hp 19tq. After he reflashed and did some tuning he was able to get out 38.5hp and 20tq. He compared my run with another R3 that had a yosh full and tst v-stacks. It made 41hp and 21tq. Nate (dyno guy) said it was the stacks that made all that power up high. Said the exhaust baffle I made to quiet it down could have effected HP number slightly. Took the bike out for a ride yesterday and it did run better. So I came home and installed a 13t front sprocket to go with the 45t rear so -1 +2 . It was amazing. The bike is actually starting to feel fast to me.
Will be making more changes coming up. Will be doing another dyno session soon.
 

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Made some changes. I had my dyno tuning session on Friday. With the Toce exhaust with the modified baffle, high flow air filter . It made (with the Toce flash) 35 hp 19tq. After he reflashed and did some tuning he was able to get out 38.5hp and 20tq. He compared my run with another R3 that had a yosh full and tst v-stacks. It made 41hp and 21tq. Nate (dyno guy) said it was the stacks that made all that power up high. Said the exhaust baffle I made to quiet it down could have effected HP number slightly. Took the bike out for a ride yesterday and it did run better. So I came home and installed a 13t front sprocket to go with the 45t rear so -1 +2 . It was amazing. The bike is actually starting to feel fast to me.
Will be making more changes coming up. Will be doing another dyno session soon.
Should have saved some money and gone with an ECU flash. Could probably have bought the vstacks and ECU package for the amount you're spending on Dyno Tuning at less horsepower.

Norton Racing Race Spec ECU Flash for OEM ECU – Yamaha R3 / MT-03

Norton Velocity Stack and ECU Flash Package Deal – Yamaha R3 / MT-03

You can check out the numbers here as well as on the product pages above:

Yamaha R3 / MT03 Exhaust Dyno Test and Superbike Build
 

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But I don’t want to give my business to Norton. I would rather spend my money local and get my bike tuned not just flashed and trust it’s good.
I understand you are a vendor and not really here it give solid advice which is fine but putting down what I have done just to try and sell something is wrong to me.
 

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But I don’t want to give my business to Norton. I would rather spend my money local and get my bike tuned not just flashed and trust it’s good.
I understand you are a vendor and not really here it give solid advice which is fine but putting down what I have done just to try and sell something is wrong to me.
I'm definitely here to give solid advice, and I'm a vendor and recommend the stuff I do because I do believe it is truly the best option, otherwise I wouldn't recommend it. I often recommend other products and vendors when its a better fit.

It's cool to do you, and I respect that, but I'm not putting you or your build down, nor am I here to "just to try and sell something". I'm truly trying to recommend the best options not just for you, but for others here based on mine, and others experience.

If what I said came off to you as rude, or "putting down what I have done", that isn't my tone, or at least not intentionally. I'm here to help everyone because there's a lot of people out there, I love the R3, and I have a lot of experience with not just the R3, but many, many vehicles.
 

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But I don’t want to give my business to Norton. I would rather spend my money local and get my bike tuned not just flashed and trust it’s good.
I understand you are a vendor and not really here it give solid advice which is fine but putting down what I have done just to try and sell something is wrong to me.
If you have someone capable of doing a proper tune on your bike locally, that's the way to go. Keep things close to home. At present, I'm on a 3-week waiting list from my local Yammy Dealer waiting on a mechanic to do some electrical work on my bike. And one of my area's few "tuners" operates out of his basement and can work on all sorts of bikes.... as long as they're a HD... he can mix-and-match all the accessories you like.
So, local isn't always more convenient or practical.

Take a few minutes to look at previous discussions, and I believe you'll see NinjaBraap seldom makes recommendations based on personal gain.
Norton Motorsports has been a supporting Vendor on this Forum for years. They were one of the 1st in the industry to actually build and race the R3 as a private enterprise. They've consistently offered free, and valuable, advice on any number of areas of motorcycling without pushing an agenda.
Would Norton like sell their products while helping support the Forum? Of course. So would the other 'Vendors' who choose to pay for that designation.
These Vendors help this Forum to operate and exist.
 

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I'm definitely here to give solid advice, and I'm a vendor and recommend the stuff I do because I do believe it is truly the best option, otherwise I wouldn't recommend it. I often recommend other products and vendors when its a better fit.

It's cool to do you, and I respect that, but I'm not putting you or your build down, nor am I here to "just to try and sell something". I'm truly trying to recommend the best options not just for you, but for others here based on mine, and others experience.

If what I said came off to you as rude, or "putting down what I have done", that isn't my tone, or at least not intentionally. I'm here to help everyone because there's a lot of people out there, I love the R3, and I have a lot of experience with not just the R3, but many, many vehicles.
I hear you. Thank you for your reply. Sorry that I came off that way. I guess that is the problem with forums. You can’t hear intent in the written word. And a ton of unsolicited advice LOL .
I have a lot of experience too and not just motorcycles. As you can tell from my screen name I am an older rider (55) and pretty set in my ways with things I have learned (mostly the hard way lol) along the way. I am mostly here to post up to let people see what I have done. I could give a ton of advice but have learned most don’t want to hear it or you get classified as some know it all. I don’t know everything but do know a lot. Maybe it’s because most think of the R3 as a beginner bike and most here are new to riding. Me? I am just down sizing from liter bikes so I can have more fun riding a somewhat slow bike fast. I also always want my machines to run at their best. That means unrestricted ECU and a proper dyno tune. I have had plenty of generic Flashes that I took to the dyno only for them to be way off from what my bike needs. Anyone who flashes their bike and never checks it on the dyno will never know what they are leaving on the table as far as ride ability and power.
With that said I trust my dyno operator and he has always done right by me. They also do their own flashing dialing it in on the dyno. Even their generic flash for the R3 needed tweaking.
So sorry to ninjabraap for the assumption that it was a put down. Have a great day and ride safe brother.
 

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I hear you. Thank you for your reply. Sorry that I came off that way. I guess that is the problem with forums. You can’t hear intent in the written word. And a ton of unsolicited advice LOL .
I have a lot of experience too and not just motorcycles. As you can tell from my screen name I am an older rider (55) and pretty set in my ways with things I have learned (mostly the hard way lol) along the way. I am mostly here to post up to let people see what I have done. I could give a ton of advice but have learned most don’t want to hear it or you get classified as some know it all. I don’t know everything but do know a lot. Maybe it’s because most think of the R3 as a beginner bike and most here are new to riding. Me? I am just down sizing from liter bikes so I can have more fun riding a somewhat slow bike fast. I also always want my machines to run at their best. That means unrestricted ECU and a proper dyno tune. I have had plenty of generic Flashes that I took to the dyno only for them to be way off from what my bike needs. Anyone who flashes their bike and never checks it on the dyno will never know what they are leaving on the table as far as ride ability and power.
With that said I trust my dyno operator and he has always done right by me. They also do their own flashing dialing it in on the dyno. Even their generic flash for the R3 needed tweaking.
So sorry to ninjabraap for the assumption that it was a put down. Have a great day and ride safe brother.
Exactly, can't hear tone or context online. Some use emojis and things like "LOL", but that still only goes so far.

I too downsized, I've owned a lot of bikes over the years, the smaller the better it seems. My next bike I'm aiming for a CRF150R so even smaller. As for ECU flashes, not all ECU flashes are created equal, and by the same token not all exhausts and velocity stacks (especially for the R3 and Ninja 400). Jesse literally spent hundreds of hours on the Dyno developing both the flashes and the Velocity stacks for the R3, going through each major name racing exhaust. Every bike is going to be unique obviously, just part of having a factory make and assemble bikes. However the amount of HP left is at most maybe 1 hp, if that. Almost no one is going to feel 1 HP difference, so for the price and time, an ECU flash from Norton is going to be the cheapest and easiest, making the best power per dollar spent.

As for advice, thats what these forums are here for. Post to your hearts content, people are here because they want advice and to learn. One thing about these little bikes, not a lot of ego or judgement here. Partly due to what you already realize, it's a popular starting point, but also most of the idiots who are too full of themselves have the mindset of "I wouldn't be caught dead riding a noob bike". Also results in less bragging and BS because on a ULW or small displacement, the BS stops the moment you hit turn 1. It's easy to tell whos fast, and knows what their doing on these bikes and who doesn't. Also realize that when those of us who do have experience post, the point of these forums is for people who are looking for an answer can use the search function to find info. So in essence, every post is a short guide or answer to not just the question you're asking, or topic you're discussing, but someone who'll have the same question later on down the road. So when I posted, I'm both answering your post, and anyone who may be looking for info later on down the line.

I'm still slow by my peers standards, and I know it, but I get out there and have fun, and I happen to know a thing or two more about wrenching than most of the people out pacing me 😉.
 
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