PCV vs. Bazzaz

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R3_808

Discussion Starter · Jul 29, 2015

I know this is on every other forum but just wondering if anyone's tried these efi kits on our bikes yet and any experiences on these kits. If one of them works better for Yamaha or someone that hasn't played with an efi kit? Wanted to start modding my bike but once I start taking pieces off my bike, might as well throw the efi on.

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Kevin

· #2 · Jul 29, 2015

I felt the same way as you did in regard to once I start modding I might as well go with some mapping. Custom dyno tune was $350 the PCV was less. I also just ordered the autotuner as well, that should be delivered today. They (dynojet) just released an app so you can make adjustments from your phone through the usb port. I installed the app on my phone yesterday but you can't use the app unless it is plugged into the PCV.
I'll be able to check it out today and report back.

I chose the Dynojet cause I was familiar with the name. I be honest I didn't research as to which had better options for the R3. It was more of a this place carried dynojet I'm famliar with the name and they will price match, So I went with it. I installed it myself which I thought was very straight forward, and the installation video they have on youtube was very clear and easy to follow. I had never installed any mods before this past weekend, I don't even change my own oil in the car, and again thought it was very easy. As far as mapping I'll have to do some reading up on that.

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Matthew Crowe

· #3 · Jul 29, 2015

R3_808 said:
I know this is on every other forum but just wondering if anyone's tried these efi kits on our bikes yet and any experiences on these kits. If one of them works better for Yamaha or someone that hasn't played with an efi kit? Wanted to start modding my bike but once I start taking pieces off my bike, might as well throw the efi on.

This would be a good question for Mr. Spears of Spears Racing. He can give you all the info you need for the R3!

SpearsRacing

· #4 · Jul 29, 2015

Matthew Crowe said:
This would be a good question for Mr. Spears of Spears Racing. He can give you all the info you need for the R3!

A lot of this is depends on how it will be supported by the local shops and vendors, they are both AWESOME systems and They both will do pretty much the same, if your mods are going to be an Exhaust and an air filter, They both will work.I offer a PCV for a Great Price(see my post in the vendor section) and it will come with a map that has been built for your bike with most, but not all of the mods.

Hope this helps

Aufitt

· #5 · Jul 29, 2015

Unless there is something im missing, cant see any advantage to getting a PCV over a Bazazz, which long term I can develop my racebike myself and with the aid of others without paying $120 per hour or endless dyno runs at @250 each, get online support, and not have to make local dynojet agents rich?

There is far more to tuning than the initial purchase.

Kevin

· #6 · Jul 30, 2015

Okay got to try and mess with it dynojet app but the app currently does not support the R3.

Capitalview

· #7 · Jul 30, 2015

I am in this same boat. It isn't so much which is better, but which is more reliable.

I have heard problems with the reliability of the Bazzaz. They are suppose to have great customer service though. Where as, Dynojet has great reliability, but not so great customer support.

Also, do we really need the dual Dynojet sensor, AT300, for a twin cylinder? Doesn't make much sense for an inline twin. It might make a little more sense for the V twins.

Contrails

· #8 · Jul 30, 2015

Capitalview said:
I am in this same boat. It isn't so much which is better, but which is more reliable.

I have heard problems with the reliability of the Bazzaz. They are suppose to have great customer service though. Where as, Dynojet has great reliability, but not so great customer support.

Also, do we really need the dual Dynojet sensor, AT300, for a twin cylinder? Doesn't make much sense for an inline twin. It might make a little more sense for the V twins.

No, you'd use the AT-200 for the R3. But that is totally optional.

t-rav_12

· #9 · Jul 30, 2015

Jbluetooth (Jesse) is a SoCal Bazzaz distributor and I purchased the Zfi module and the Z AFM auto-tuner from. I'm sorry, but I don't have any good input regarding it yet, 'cause I'm holding off the install of my race parts until I can track my bike in stock form first. It's really killing me looking at all these go-fast goodies, believe me. :-(

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Aufitt

· #10 · Jul 31, 2015

Jbluetooth for me too, he will get the bazazz sussed.
I value his experience.

R3_808

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 31, 2015

t-rav_12 said:
Jbluetooth (Jesse) is a SoCal Bazzaz distributor and I purchased the Zfi module and the Z AFM auto-tuner from. I'm sorry, but I don't have any good input regarding it yet, 'cause I'm holding off the install of my race parts until I can track my bike in stock form first. It's really killing me looking at all these go-fast goodies, believe me. :-(

Does it look like a simple install? I've seen the PCV install but not the bazzaz. Also which program is easier to work with? I can say that I'm not going to race or do anything wild to the motor but I'd like learn to tune and make my bike run as efficient as possible.

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Norton-Motorsports.com

· #12 · Jul 31, 2015

Well, like Gregg said, both are awesome units, and especially with this bike, will basically do exactly the same thing. I'm a Bazzaz guy, I've used the Bazzaz for my past 4 race bikes because it offered more for your money for the CBR1000 and R6. I prefer the Bazzaz interface, I prefer the Bazzaz autotuner which allows you to review and edit changes before making them (Power Commander just makes them for you, you don't get input on the changes until after they are done), and the Bazzaz costs less in every situation. The basic Z-Fi is less than the PC-V, the stand-alone quickshifter is less than all the required Dynojet parts, and the Z-Fi TC is less than the Power Commander V with quickshifter plus the Bazzaz has traction control which the Power Commander doesn't offer. There are top race teams using both, as well as other electronic packages. A lot of people have used Dynojet for a long time and swear by it, but it's a no brainer for me to go with Bazzaz.

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t-rav_12

· #13 · Jul 31, 2015

R3_808 said:
t-rav_12 said:

Jbluetooth (Jesse) is a SoCal Bazzaz distributor and I purchased the Zfi module and the Z AFM auto-tuner from. I'm sorry, but I don't have any good input regarding it yet, 'cause I'm holding off the install of my race parts until I can track my bike in stock form first. It's really killing me looking at all these go-fast goodies, believe me. :-(

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Does it look like a simple install? I've seen the PCV install but not the bazzaz. Also which program is easier to work with? I can say that I'm not going to race or do anything wild to the motor but I'd like learn to tune and make my bike run as efficient as possible.

The instructions look really straight forward.

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Bmfaze2

· #14 · Jul 31, 2015

I'm so glad somebody opened this thread regarding the PCV vs the Bazzaz. I was up in the air about which one to purchase as well. Like the earlier post though, I guess a lot does depend on the support of the local venders, etc. since both seem to be great products. This helped me out with my decision. Spears racing seems to be one of the closer venders to me, so I will more than likely go for the PCV once I'm ready.

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HardRacing

· #15 · Jul 31, 2015 (Edited)

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They are indeed both great products.
Both proven over 2 decades.
Both Reliable and great customer service.
Both are similar "Street price " .

But, there are some extra bonus features you get with a PCV that you don't get with Bazzaz.

1) The PCV offers Both FUEL and Ignition Timing adjustments
2) The PCV offers Rev Limit increase (if you desire)
3) The PCV offers Add-on plug-play quick shifter modules
4) The PCV offers Add-on Autotune Module (Self Mapping)
5) The PCV offers Add-on LCD Display or POD Display
6) Dyno Jet offers a Map database with different combinations of exhaust / Filters, which continues to grow weekly as they get more maps made

The Autotune self mapping is a huge bonus. Not only does it make recommendation to map changes........ it actually applies them LIVE TIME for a true "SELF MAPPING" system.

So it can adapt to subtle changes in the Air Temp, Gas quality, Barometric pressure, Altitude changes....etc..
OR, if you make new modifications to your bike, it will also self adjust.

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HardRacing

· #16 · Jul 31, 2015

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Also forgot to mention, couple of days ago we added R3-Forum to our list of Sponsored Forums.

Just waiting for VS to upload our " Vendor" data.

Didn't want anyone thinking we were spamming.

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FangShui

· #17 · Jul 31, 2015

HardRacing said:
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Also forgot to mention, couple of days ago we added R3-Forum to our list of Sponsored Forums.

Just waiting for VS to upload our " Vendor" data.

Didn't want anyone thinking we were spamming.

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Welcome aboard!

When you're selling quality parts it's never Spam!

Unless, that is, you're trying to push Vibrating Voodoo Love Seats Add 7 MPH, or the like.

HardRacing

· #18 · Jul 31, 2015

FangShui said:
Welcome aboard!

When you're selling quality parts it's never Spam!

Unless, that is, you're trying to push Vibrating Voodoo Love Seats Add 7 MPH, or the like.

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LOL.. Thanks.

We only sell parts we would use, and do use on our own R3.

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t-rav_12

· #19 · Aug 1, 2015

FangShui said:
Unless, that is, you're trying to push Vibrating Voodoo Love Seats Add 7 MPH, or the like.

What's wrong with vibrating voodoo love seats?
Everybody knows they add horsepower!!

KimmyR3

· #20 · Aug 3, 2018

anyone wanna share experience with either products? I've been thinking about getting a fuel controller since I installed a full system a few weeks ago, but can't really decide which one to get. I'm currently leaning towards the bazzaz since its interface looks much better/easier than the PCV but any opinions are welcome. I'm not looking at getting every ounce of HP from the bike but mainly ease-of-use since I only hit the track as a "hobby".

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