If you can afford, go R6. Do not underestimate the R3 since it's **** fun to ride the little monster
Please talk me out of getting an R6
I have been looking into getting a motorcycle for few weeks now (Taking the motorcycle safety course this week and 0 prior motorcycle experience). I have 6 years of clean driving record at age 23. Deep in my senses I know that R3 is the right decision as a commuter / weekend bike, but I just can't shake off the excitement of numerous R6 videos I have been watching.
I am SO itching to buy the R6, and need someone here to slap me out of it lol.
In short, please tell me what you love about the R3
Thanks a lot
I am SO itching to buy the R6, and need someone here to slap me out of it lol.
In short, please tell me what you love about the R3
Thanks a lot
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If its your first bike I cant fathom anything worse than an R6.
I've been riding and racing offroad for 40 years,
intensive track training at the highest level possible for 4 years,
Racing for 2 years with high grading and excellent race results at state level.
Im not ready for an R6, let alone purchase one for 'commuter / weekend bike',
or to ride at a level the R6 is capable of, I see no fun in hospital.
Love that the R3 is beyond my abilities, but on it I can keep gradually improving because 300's are forgiving.
Bikes don't come any less forgiving than the 2008-2015 R6, that's what I love about them too,
but I sure as **** aren't going to rush out and get one until good and ready.
Is that enough of a slap?
Do the safety course, ask the instructors, they will also shake their heads..
I've been riding and racing offroad for 40 years,
intensive track training at the highest level possible for 4 years,
Racing for 2 years with high grading and excellent race results at state level.
Im not ready for an R6, let alone purchase one for 'commuter / weekend bike',
or to ride at a level the R6 is capable of, I see no fun in hospital.
Love that the R3 is beyond my abilities, but on it I can keep gradually improving because 300's are forgiving.
Bikes don't come any less forgiving than the 2008-2015 R6, that's what I love about them too,
but I sure as **** aren't going to rush out and get one until good and ready.
Is that enough of a slap?
Do the safety course, ask the instructors, they will also shake their heads..
Yeah, thank you for the double slap. I really appreciate the words from an experienced rider. Currently I am putting some money into good gear to get myself ready.
I would argue that you are probably well off in the streets on a 600cc because it seems you have much more experience than most
who ride in that class. But I guess being humble served you well for the past few decades :]
I would argue that you are probably well off in the streets on a 600cc because it seems you have much more experience than most
who ride in that class. But I guess being humble served you well for the past few decades :]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKbYH1W0HE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MztcSileZlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwsFxkbYozU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztWiPYlrLTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUcp9xNOm0Y
Nice bit of research on R6's for you
Don't forget the GoPro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MztcSileZlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwsFxkbYozU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztWiPYlrLTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUcp9xNOm0Y
Nice bit of research on R6's for you
Don't forget the GoPro.
At your age youll eventually move up to a superbike. I would get an r3 first then wait until the next gen r6 come out. That way in between that time you can gain some experience. I came from an r6 to r3.
Get an R3, swap out the stock tires for something better (Bridgestone S20's ). Take every riding course you can find. A skilled rider will NEVER outgrow the R3. What will happen eventually is you will get so much fun out of out riding sqids on bigger bikes that you'll never see the need for a bigger bike. I corner work at a track in exchange for track time. There was a 14 year old kid on a 125 2 stroke mini gp bike that was turning faster laps than ALL of the liter bikes in intermediate group and holding his own against the expert group.......all with 35 horsepower.
Need a slap? Check insurance rates for an R6 at your age on that bike.
squid, idiot, pack of squids, squid, annnnnnd squid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKbYH1W0HE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MztcSileZlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwsFxkbYozU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztWiPYlrLTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUcp9xNOm0Y
Nice bit of research on R6's for you
Don't forget the GoPro.
I joke, but honestly I just don't get these people.. If you're going to ego ride with a bike way past your ability, at least throw a jacket on to keep your skin from feeding the asphalt monster.. At least the guy in the stoppie fail video was pretty much wearing full gear and practicing in a parking lot or closed street
Dont listen to anyone here. Get the R6 as your first bike, ride it at like 20% its capabilites max, your capabilities at 100%, or whatever you can get your level at. Remember you can hit 65+ in first gear, so you dont even need to shift if you are just riding around town. Go ahead and enjoy that crappy street bike posture (some supersports are ok for the street, my ZX6R was fine, but that varies from rider/bike combo). Enjoy the super high insurance. If everyone brags about their high MPGs, remember you are on an R6, not a scooter. If you wanted hgh MPGs you would have gotten a vespa. Enjoy that cool looking fat 180 tire cause only the cool guys rock a 180. Enjoy going fast in a straight line cause the guys on their beginner bikes can only look cool on tight roads or technical tracks. Keep us posted, especially when its time for the Part out Party!
Or be sensible, stop itching for a bike just cause it/you would look cool, and get an R3 or other small bike, have tons of fun on it and actually learn to ride (not saying you cant on a bigger bike, but most experienced riders will agree a small bike teaches more things and at a faster rate than the bigger bikes.) All while avoiding most of what I wrote above.
Or be sensible, stop itching for a bike just cause it/you would look cool, and get an R3 or other small bike, have tons of fun on it and actually learn to ride (not saying you cant on a bigger bike, but most experienced riders will agree a small bike teaches more things and at a faster rate than the bigger bikes.) All while avoiding most of what I wrote above.
I know this is random but how's riding in San Diego?Dont listen to anyone here. Get the R6 as your first bike, ride it at like 20% its capabilites max, your capabilities at 100%, or whatever you can get your level at. Remember you can hit 65+ in first gear, so you dont even need to shift if you are just riding around town. Go ahead and enjoy that crappy street bike posture (some supersports are ok for the street, my ZX6R was fine, but that varies from rider/bike combo). Enjoy the super high insurance. If everyone brags about their high MPGs, remember you are on an R6, not a scooter. If you wanted hgh MPGs you would have gotten a vespa. Enjoy that cool looking fat 180 tire cause only the cool guys rock a 180. Enjoy going fast in a straight line cause the guys on their beginner bikes can only look cool on tight roads or technical tracks. Keep us posted, especially when its time for the Part out Party!
Or be sensible, stop itching for a bike just cause it/you would look cool, and get an R3 or other small bike, have tons of fun on it and actually learn to ride (not saying you cant on a bigger bike, but most experienced riders will agree a small bike teaches more things and at a faster rate than the bigger bikes.) All while avoiding most of what I wrote above.
I was thinking about moving to NYC but it seems like the quality of life is so much better in San Diego.
I live in SF at the moment. Are there good roads ( twisties ) in SD?
We don't have a riding "season". Our weather is amazing all year. Lots of great roads like Palomar, the 94 Etc. Also there are race tracks 1.5-3.5 hours away.I know this is random but how's riding in San Diego?
I was thinking about moving to NYC but it seems like the quality of life is so much better in San Diego.
I live in SF at the moment. Are there good roads ( twisties ) in SD?
Read this Drew page 20.
http://edition.pagesuite-professiona...c-0c5e8b7ae11d
http://edition.pagesuite-professiona...c-0c5e8b7ae11d
Most riders I see on superbikes, unless they are in the twisties, are riding with one arm resting on the tank. Why? Because their backs and arms are killing them from the horrible posture on those bikes. I sat on the R6 at the dealer while I was waiting for the paperwork to be processed for my R3. I immediately knew I made the right choice. Would I like a little more power from my R3? Sure, who doesn't, but not at the expense of comfort.
I personally do not like the R6 because the ergonomics is so **** hard on you. Its not fun as a street bike in my opinion. People often say that the R6 and R1 are the most track-oriented of the Japanese sport bikes, and I agree. Your posture, and comfort, its going to affect your street riding and going slow and stop and go will be a huge pain on you.
Young kids who have bought the R3 are crashing it left and right on these forums, so I can't comment on your safety because if you are an aggressive newbie with low competence, you'll drop the bike regardless of what it is. But just know the R3 will be ten times more comfortable to ride than an R6. It will be much safer to ride in general. And I own two motorcycles, a stronger motorcycle, and the R3, and I enjoy riding the R3 more because I can ride it crazy and still be safe, whilst riding a stronger sport bike crazy results in not being safe. But then, that is the perk of owning 2+ motorcycles. I can't comment on how it would be if I only owned the R3 and nothing else. But I honestly think I would be happy with nothing but the R3.
Young kids who have bought the R3 are crashing it left and right on these forums, so I can't comment on your safety because if you are an aggressive newbie with low competence, you'll drop the bike regardless of what it is. But just know the R3 will be ten times more comfortable to ride than an R6. It will be much safer to ride in general. And I own two motorcycles, a stronger motorcycle, and the R3, and I enjoy riding the R3 more because I can ride it crazy and still be safe, whilst riding a stronger sport bike crazy results in not being safe. But then, that is the perk of owning 2+ motorcycles. I can't comment on how it would be if I only owned the R3 and nothing else. But I honestly think I would be happy with nothing but the R3.
Thanks for the many good points! I really enjoyed the read on the British magazine claiming 71mpg in towns.
The insurance is definitely a kick in the groin at about $300 for full coverage (max liability, theft, collision) for the R6 as opposed to ~$130 on the R3. However I will probably skip out on the collision coverage for the R3 which brings it down to about $70. The insurance company really punishes new riders with collision coverage costs. It is through the roof.
Also the other day I got a chance to sit on both bikes and I can safely say I will stick with the R3.
Hope to get the bike within the month! Then I will give a formal introduction on the forums.
The insurance is definitely a kick in the groin at about $300 for full coverage (max liability, theft, collision) for the R6 as opposed to ~$130 on the R3. However I will probably skip out on the collision coverage for the R3 which brings it down to about $70. The insurance company really punishes new riders with collision coverage costs. It is through the roof.
Also the other day I got a chance to sit on both bikes and I can safely say I will stick with the R3.
Hope to get the bike within the month! Then I will give a formal introduction on the forums.
If you want a certain bike get it, everyone is different in terms of riding ability and how fast they learn.
I started on a Buell Blast. Decided I needed something more appropriate for highway use and picked up a 2009 FZ6-S2 Fazer. The FZ6 is fantastic for highway and back road riding but not as enjoyable around town. In July I picked up a R3 to ultimately replace my Blast. If I had the R3 before the FZ6 I probably would not own the FZ6. Yes the extra power is fantastic, but I dont need it. I can only go so fast on the road and the FZ6 likes to go faster than the posted limits with ease. While I am more confident on the FZ6 than the R3 I suspect most of that comes down to the tires. The FX6 has Michelin Pilot Power 2CT tires on it and they have never left me wondering what they were doing. The stock tires on the R3 have left me less confident as I start to push more. That will be solved in the spring and hopefully I will never second guess what the tires will do in a corner again.
In short, a more tame 600 is probably fine to learn on. A high strung 600 probably not. I did ride a buddies 2006 R6 and found myself eager to get back on my R3 within about a mile. The ergonomics are not well suited for me and I find the bike a bit twitchy for my liking.
Yes, I still own all 3 bikes. The Blast will probably be sold in the spring though. The R3 saw more road time than the FZ6 even though I have owned the FZ6 about twice as long. For a fun "therapy" ride I tend to gravitate to the R3. Its just so much fun. My buddy with the R6 gets excited every time I let him ride it as well.
In short, a more tame 600 is probably fine to learn on. A high strung 600 probably not. I did ride a buddies 2006 R6 and found myself eager to get back on my R3 within about a mile. The ergonomics are not well suited for me and I find the bike a bit twitchy for my liking.
Yes, I still own all 3 bikes. The Blast will probably be sold in the spring though. The R3 saw more road time than the FZ6 even though I have owned the FZ6 about twice as long. For a fun "therapy" ride I tend to gravitate to the R3. Its just so much fun. My buddy with the R6 gets excited every time I let him ride it as well.
Wow, 700 miles! I would love to take a road trip down Hwy 1 on the California coast, so this is good news, thanks!Just got back from a nice ride pulled into my driveway to my surprise. 700 miles. Home safe again. Good to hear your going to join in and get yourself a R3. It's really comfortable bike to ride.
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