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Hello guys, It's been a really long time since my last post, and the reason for that is that I crashed.

Before I get into what I wanted to talk about, how did it happen?

I was riding around my town, I wasn't really going anywhere, just riding because I wanted to ride...makes me feel relaxed, "free" if you will.
Anyway I came up to an intersection shaped like this " =|| ", with 3 vertical lanes (2 going "up", 1 going the opposite direction) and 1 single lane in the road on the left. Slowed down, checked that the car in front of me wasn't going to turn into that road on the left and it didn't (I am a bit of a paranoid when driving around traffic), when the car passed the intersection I accelerated and next thing I knew there was a car in front of me, diagonally, and I was going straight into it.
That car was initially driving in the lane at the right side of mine, but the driver apparently decided that cutting from that lane, across mine and attempting to turn in that left road was a safe enough maneuver.

The moment I saw the car I slammed on my brakes while pulling my clutch, but really inside me I knew I was going to crash into it. Luckily, as I said before, I am paranoid when driving in traffic so I knew that there was a scooter on my right and that trying to dodge the car by turning right could have resulted in the girl driving the scooter to crash too, I also knew that no one was in the upcoming lane in that moment, so I opted to attempt to minimize the damage by swerving to the left. Of course I crashed into the car regardless of that, but at least it wasn't a full-frontal crash. Unfortunately this had another type of consequence...

Did I get hurt?

Well, the answer is yes and no. I did get hurt, but the injury was minimal compared to what it could have been, and that is because I was wearing full gear.
Before going into the details of how/where I got hurt, I was wearing the following:
-Leather jacket & pants (Alpinestar, not mine so I don't know the specific model)
-Riding boots (Dainese TR-Course Out)
-Gloves (Dainese Veloce)
-Back Protector (Dainese Manis)
-And of course the helmet (AGV K5)

As I said before, swerving to the left had some consequences, in fact when I crashed my right hand "punched" the car, the impact was strong enough that the handlebar broke almost completely in my hand. My body got pushed forward, I hit the tank (I later found out that the tank fairing broke away from the bolts holding it because of the impact) and flipped over the bike, slamming my back to the ground.

First thing I felt after falling was dizziness and an intense pain at my groin (hitting the tank really hurt), I couldn't really see well for a few moments, it seemed blurred...then I started seeing red drops of blood, and realized it was my nose.
I remember someone yelling at me to stay on the ground, even though I knew that was the right thing to do for some reason I felt the need to stand up, I wasn't thinking straight at all, lying on the ground made me angry for reasons I don't know how to explain and I even removed my helmet knowing I shouldn't have, I just couldn't stand the blood anymore as the inside of my helmet was drenched in it at that point.

I stood up, I saw a few cars stopped and people directing traffic around my bike and the car, someone approached me and told me they had already called the police and ambulance and they were on the way there, in that moment I wondered how much time had actually passed between when I fell and when I stood up for all that to have been done already, I have absolutely no clue...I then walked to the sidewalk and sat down.
People were talking to me, I could hear them but I wasn't really listening because at stupid as it may sound, from that sidewalk all I could see and care about was my poor crashed bike, I didn't even care if I was hurt or not, I was just sad for my little R3.

Eventually the ambulance arrived, they took me to the hospital to have me checked (X-rays, MRI and whatnot), and when the results came it turns out in the end I had absolutely nothing. Not a broken bone, not a bruise, literally not even the hint of a scratch, they only thing I had was a nosebleed that passed by itself before the ambulance arrived and a bit of groin pain.

Am I a lucky person? I surely am. But I believe what really saved me was the gear I was wearing, specifically the back protector as it was a direct and heavy slam on my back and I didn't feel a thing.
Funny enough I intended to buy aftermarket parts for my bike, but then I read the numerous advice on this forum about getting gear first and that's what I did, I've never been so grateful about advice from the internet.

Seriously, buy riding gear, it will save your life.

Thoughts

It's funny how no matter how carefull and cautious you can be, anything can go wrong regardless. It doesn't matter how flawless and faultless your riding is, you have to have a thousand eyes and your full attention when riding your bike, and even then it still might not be enough, and it scares me.
The accident itself didn't scare me and riding again doesn't scare me, I was ready to ride the bike home if it weren't for the extensive damage, what scared me was feeling powerless.
I didn't get hurt, but the thought that my life could get scarred forever, or worse, end entirely...because of something I have no power to avoid leaves me with a huge amount of bitterness, the idea that being in the wrong place at the wrong time is enough for that to happen makes me angry.

And yet, as I've been having these thoughts since a few weeks ago when I crashed, all I've really wanted since then is to just hop on my bike and go for another ride.
My non-rider friends call it idiocy but I call it passion, because I know that no matter how much I'm aware of the intrinsic dangers of riding, I could never give it up for anything else.
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Yes no matter how cautious you are or how much experience you have, the unfortunate truth is we are surrounded by a bunch of morons who are out of it one way or another and our lives are in their hands.

Glad you are ok. Good thing you spent the money and geared up first.

Were there any insurance payouts for the totaled R3?
Yes no matter how cautious you are or how much experience you have, the unfortunate truth is we are surrounded by a bunch of morons who are out of it one way or another and our lives are in their hands.

Glad you are ok. Good thing you spent the money and geared up first.

Were there any insurance payouts for the totaled R3?
The car driver insurance will be paying for all the damages as there was a traffic camera at the intersection that recorded what happened. He also tried telling the police that I was surpassing him at high speed and it was my fault, but because the traffic camera had a clear view on what actually happened the authorities decided that he'll have to pay moral damages too (amount still to be decided).
Glad you are OK. Are you planning to get another bike and if so, will it be a R3?
Glad you're ok! I was in the exact same accident last year; however, I was driving my brand new car. Only had it for 3 months and I was at the same exact type of intersection. The light turned green and I accelerated. No one was in front of me. There was this one car next to me on the right lane that was a little ahead of me. It was at night and it was raining a little. The car was going straight so I didn't think much of anything and out of no where she swerved left at the last minute, right in front of me. Slammed on the brakes, triggered the ABS but couldn't stop in time and rammed into her. Fortunately I was in a car and I didn't get hurt at all but I was pissed because my new car got damaged in only three months.

Seriously though, I don't know where those idiots get the notion that it's ok to turn left and cut across an intersection from a right hand lane or vice versa. It's just common sense not to. And if they really need to turn left then they should double or triple check that there are no coming cars or motorcycle before they do it. But there are just too many idiots out there on the road who don't know the rules of the road or don't care for the rules and what makes it worse is that sometimes they think they are right. Their ignorance just drives me insane. The passenger of that car came out and was screaming at me that it was my fault. I was like are you serious? So stupid. In the end, her insurance covered everything. I'm glad there was a camera there. People would just make up bullshit to get out of trouble.

Just the other day, I pulled into a parking lot on my R3 that was an entrance only. There was even a one way sign and this stupid lady decided that it was ok to exit from there when the exit was only a few feet away. I honked at her and she just put her hands up and shook her head as if she did nothing wrong. I then pointed to the one way sign and she did the same thing. A true example of an idiot right there.

Anyways, I hope you get better and back to riding soon.
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I had three cagers turn into me when I was riding right next to them on the road within a span of an hour this past weekend. Luckily they were only trying to get one lane over and not two. I had a chat with the first one as it was my first time that has ever happened to me. Glad you are ok though and I also wear ATGATT. I have a motorcycle jacket that has padding on the back and front is there other protection I can get?

I also wear gloves, knee/shin pads, helmet and motorcycle boots and wear them everytime I ride. Too many idiots out there!
Very glad you're okay. Good on you for wearing your gear.

I know it's early for this yet, it'll take you some time to process it all, but my "post-crash thoughts" always include, what could I have done to avoid the wreck. Doesn't matter whether the legal fault was 100% someone else's, it's always better not to crash than it is for someone else to pay for the crash, and it's extremely rare that there isn't something I could've done differently. Even if a cager's violation of traffic laws does nothing more than scare me - if it scared me, it means I wasn't anticipating it.

High on the list of things you both might be thinking about are lane positioning, and staying out of people's blind spots. "Riding right next to" a car is a recipe for getting merged into. Occasionally in heavy traffic it can't be avoided, though I can usually juggle my speed a bit to make sure I'm either in their mirror or slightly forward of the driver's seat. When traffic is so heavy I can't get out of someone's blind spot, those are the times I need to be hyper-aware of their head bobs, small movements of the wheels, anything that might show me they're about to try to take my lane.

This isn't in the least to justify anyone else's distracted driving. Just that, ultimately, I'm the only one who can keep myself from crashing, and every time I fail at that, or even come closer to failing than I'd like, it's a learning opportunity and I try to make sure I take full advantage.
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I'm glad to hear you are fine from the crash, gears are important that I spent more than 1/3 of the cost of my r3 to get them and do not regret for spending that much in there. With a bike gone that might get you a chance for a new upgrade bike

I agree with Yamamama there. Staying out of other crazy, clueless drivers, and driving defensively(not to be a chicken, but defensive enough to keep your butt on the seat).
back in NY people drive really aggressive but most people do drive defensively. Stagger to each other so you get to have escape routes
Here in NorCal where people do not do that AT ALL. Potential dangers were seen everywhere if someone just suddenly swerve a tiny bit. Drivers are idiot enough to do 4 or even 5 cars parallel to each other to block the whole highway and driving like that for MINUTES on 101. What is it? Drag race?

My girl is picking up driving(she barely drove in NY) as I am picking up the riding here. From teaching her driving and my riding that I noticed a lot more potential crashes causes are from drivers who are on the street and not yours. However I always tell her that if others crashes into you, without any injury, you still lose time to send the car in to repair, hassle to go pick up/drop off rental, walk away with a repaired car instead of a new car regardless who's fault. Drive with extra safe distance do not hurt, gaining extra 10minutes to rush home to sit on couch is not a worthwhile.
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Glad you are okay riding gear saves lives simple as that and this is a perfect example of such. I saw a girl riding on saturday after I left the race track just a tank top helmet and gloves as he rode by my truck with my CBR1000 and R3 in the back all I did was shake my head from side to side. I have seen so many crashes at the race track and only 5 people hav even been taking to the hospital non have been seriosly injuried or have died. With that being said I have seen more people die on the street because or their carless actions or as a result of the carlessness of others then at the race track.
Good post - ATGATT is a good thing for sure. Glad you came out just a bit dinged up, but nothing serious.

My street riding has been severely curtailed the last few years - the biggest danger is distracted housewives in their SUV with a bunch of kids in the back... ' I'm in the right lane.. oh, there's the mall on the left...three lane swing - better get out of my way, there's a sale going on!!' Had one do that a couple of years ago, the guy in front of me had to do a panic stop to keep from ramming her and I had nowhere to go except through the back of his Explorer - next thing I know I'm looking up at two cops and two EMT's.... funny thing is Explorer guy apologized to me, even though it was not his fault. I managed to almost get it shut down, did a stoppie and the bike never hit his truck - just my head through the back.

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Good post - ATGATT is a good thing for sure. Glad you came out just a bit dinged up, but nothing serious.

My street riding has been severely curtailed the last few years - the biggest danger is distracted housewives in their SUV with a bunch of kids in the back... ' I'm in the right lane.. oh, there's the mall on the left...three lane swing - better get out of my way, there's a sale going on!!' Had one do that a couple of years ago, the guy in front of me had to do a panic stop to keep from ramming her and I had nowhere to go except through the back of his Explorer - next thing I know I'm looking up at two cops and two EMT's.... funny thing is Explorer guy apologized to me, even though it was not his fault. I managed to almost get it shut down, did a stoppie and the bike never hit his truck - just my head through the back.
BMW X5/X6

I stay away from them like plague, even driving in my car
BMW X5/X6

I stay away from them like plague, even driving in my car
lol.. my winter ride is an x6. I love it.
lol.. my winter ride is an x6. I love it.
well unless youre a housewife you are fine :D
well unless youre a housewife you are fine :D
Let me check.. nope, not a chick. Nebraska winters can suck and sometimes working in winter sucks. Might as well enjoy the ride.
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