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I had the fortunate, displeasure of having my 2013 Triumph Daytona 675R purchased back from me by the manufacturer today. I had previously lined up a GSXR 750 as a replacement, until I found out that it would cost me $2600/year to insure, up from $750/year with the Daytona. I always told everyone that I would consider a 300, and here I am. I have been riding for 8 years, 5 spent on a Kawasaki Ninja 650R (sold @ 36k miles) the past 2 1/2 on a the 675R ("sold" @ 20k miles).

I want an R3 because I feel that by "taking a step back", I could teach myself a thing or two about mastering a motorcycle. I say mastering because as highly as I may think of myself, I would never use the Daytona to it's limits, but I think I could push an R3 awfully close.

I have ridden my GFs CBR 300R a few times over the past few weeks the Daytona has been in the shop, and it is a good time, but I have the following concerns:

-Will the suspension hold up to hard back roads/track riding?
-I noticed the performance tire market for this size tire is limited. Are the offers any good?
-Can the R3 be modified with clip ons without cutting the plastics?
 

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Use the search feature here and answers to all your questions there. Why did they buy back your 675R?? And Welcome.
 
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:eek:

Nobody cares about anything else you said. We just want to know WTF is up with THIS ?!?!?
Was having intermittent loss of power to my throttle, was in the shop 5 times for more than 60+ days in the last year, so I got Triumph to buy it back from me.
 

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Hello all!

I had the fortunate, displeasure of having my 2013 Triumph Daytona 675R purchased back from me by the manufacturer today. I had previously lined up a GSXR 750 as a replacement, until I found out that it would cost me $2600/year to insure, up from $750/year with the Daytona. I always told everyone that I would consider a 300, and here I am. I have been riding for 8 years, 5 spent on a Kawasaki Ninja 650R (sold @ 36k miles) the past 2 1/2 on a the 675R ("sold" @ 20k miles).

I want an R3 because I feel that by "taking a step back", I could teach myself a thing or two about mastering a motorcycle. I say mastering because as highly as I may think of myself, I would never use the Daytona to it's limits, but I think I could push an R3 awfully close.

I have ridden my GFs CBR 300R a few times over the past few weeks the Daytona has been in the shop, and it is a good time, but I have the following concerns:

-Will the suspension hold up to hard back roads/track riding?
-I noticed the performance tire market for this size tire is limited. Are the offers any good?
-Can the R3 be modified with clip ons without cutting the plastics?
Here's a clip-on thread to consider.

As far as suspension, depends on what kind of hard riding you do. I find it fine for the road.

Tires? The OEM are serviceable, but a little squirmy IMO. Pirelli DR2s, Metzeler, or Bridgestone S20 Evos have pretty high regard here, all at some expense in longevity.

You'll find the R3 pretty cheap to insure -- but it sounds like something's way wrong with that Gixxer quote.
 

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Here's a clip-on thread to consider.

As far as suspension, depends on what kind of hard riding you do. I find it fine for the road.

Tires? The OEM are serviceable, but a little squirmy IMO. Pirelli DR2s, Metzeler, or Bridgestone S20 Evos have pretty high regard here, all at some expense in longevity.

You'll find the R3 pretty cheap to insure -- but it sounds like something's way wrong with that Gixxer quote.
Thanks for the info, will look into that.

Yeah man...that was from Dairyland, Geico is even worse. Progressive looks a bit more reasonable at $1200/year.
 

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Thanks for the info, will look into that.

Yeah man...that was from Dairyland, Geico is even worse. Progressive looks a bit more reasonable at $1200/year.

State Farm Ins. for the Win.
 
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Was having intermittent loss of power to my throttle, was in the shop 5 times for more than 60+ days in the last year, so I got Triumph to buy it back from me.
Wow. Thanks for the info.
Never heard of this issue before. Bad luck.
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Did something similar myself, put 30k on an fz8 and then got this bike.

The suspension is non adjustable. Not a huge deal since the fz8 was also, but the Daytona is fully adjusted. Big step backwards. Plenty of aftermarket support here though, I bought an ohlins rear and it has been worth every dollar.

The brakes will take some getting used to. They are not supersport spec dual brembos. They work well enough, but don't really have any initial bite. New pads and ss lines are highly recommended.

Stock tires worked decently for my commuting and some mountain runs but aren't something I'd want on a track. S20s and dr2s are probably the best options in stock sizing for street and track use. I went up to a 150 rear to grab some metzlers and am very happy with that decision so far.

Overall, it's a fun bike to really focus on cornering and momentum, or just beat up day to day. It's a very different experience than a 100+hp bike and it's much cheaper to keep on the road than an average supersport.
 

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Stock tyres are useless, rest of the bike you wont go close to 'mastering', none of us will.
but its fun to try.
 

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You will want to upgrade your suspension - I'm in a similar situation to you coming from a GSXR1000, and I did Andriani fork inserts and a K-Tech shock. The bike is such a bargain, it's easy to find room in the budget for these somewhat pricey upgrades. I replaced the stock tires with S20s before I took delivery of the bike. They work great. Put on a cheap R6 throttle tube and you're good to go!

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I, like you took a step back. I owned an ex500 for around 3600ish miles. Then wanted something new and bought a 2012 N650. Wrecked and bought a 2013 N650. 2 years later, and a crap ton of mods on the 650 I decided I wanted a zx6r. A few months later I thought to take that step back and have not regretted that choice at all. I really started to learn how to ride at a much faster rate than on the other bikes. Of course at this point I had thousands of miles of canyon riding and started getting onto the track. I have since moved back overseas (military life) and have decided I will own another sub 400 bike. I don't mind the middle weight bikes, I just really have a thing for bikes that weigh in at mid 300's. The R3 is one of those and I would definitely buy it again if it weren't for the fact that I want all the bikes and want to try everything out. Now j am not sure if I want to pick up an older sub400 in line 4, a V4, or the newer single cylinder 390.

As far as upgrades, I tracked the R3 twice and didn't have problems. I would upgrade the suspension first and foremost though. I will point out I only weight in at 138 naked, and probably 158 suited up. That's always one of the first major upgrades for me and was the majority of my upgrades on the 650, transplanting a zx6r front end onto the bike. My belief is that no matter the bike, at the very least the suspension should be sprung for your weight. This time, rather than Frankenstein another front end onto the bike I think I would want to try out the aftermarket solutions such as an Andreani or Ohlins kit.

On the R3 I also changed to S20 shortly after buying the bike. Modded the brakes since I missed the stopping power of Nissin 4 pots on my last bike. Ended up grafting an older R6 caliper onto the R3, pairs with a N650 master cylinder first, then a Brembo rcs15.

Like any other bike out there, you can mod the **** out of it even if in someone else's hands they find nothing wrong with it.

Were you a part of ride forums.com?
 

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Thanks for the input guys.

Having hard time pulling the trigger on this, but the terrible insurance quotes keep rolling in for the GSXR 750, making it an easier decision.
@Kojiiro I was not part of the ride forums, I was on Triumph675 dot net most recently.
 

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Thanks for the input guys.

Having hard time pulling the trigger on this, but the terrible insurance quotes keep rolling in for the GSXR 750, making it an easier decision.

@Kojiiro I was not part of the ride forums, I was on Triumph675 dot net most recently.
Sorry, I meant riderforums.com. Typing on this iPad sucks. A lot of 650 owners on it with lots of good info.
 

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Did something similar myself, put 30k on an fz8 and then got this bike.

The suspension is non adjustable. Not a huge deal since the fz8 was also, but the Daytona is fully adjusted. Big step backwards. Plenty of aftermarket support here though, I bought an ohlins rear and it has been worth every dollar.

The brakes will take some getting used to. They are not supersport spec dual brembos. They work well enough, but don't really have any initial bite. New pads and ss lines are highly recommended.

Stock tires worked decently for my commuting and some mountain runs but aren't something I'd want on a track. S20s and dr2s are probably the best options in stock sizing for street and track use. I went up to a 150 rear to grab some metzlers and am very happy with that decision so far.

Overall, it's a fun bike to really focus on cornering and momentum, or just beat up day to day. It's a very different experience than a 100+hp bike and it's much cheaper to keep on the road than an average supersport.
What PSI do you run with a 150 tire? Also, what type of Metzler tire did you get? Also, did you find 36PSI with stock tires to be a bit much? I have crappy roads here in So-Cal and with 36PSI I would be bumping up and down and hitting my balls at times during some worse roads or at higher speeds in the unmaintained freeways. 33PSI was much much better.
 

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Insurance aside, if you really liked the power and performance of the 675R you will probably regret buying the R3. It will never have the get up and go or straight line abilities you are use to on the 675R.

If you want bike that is light and can be set up to handle wonderfully you will love the R3. You have to be willing to sink some money into it for suspension and tire upgrades though.

That could easily start to equal the price of a used 600 though. Figuring if you bought the R3 new.

I came from a SV650 and am very happy I did. I don't need the straight line acceleration, or bloated weight, of the 600s or 1000s. For some reason mammy in America have this stupid perception that you have to go big or how home. To them I say "Shove it up your a $$"

Anyone can go fast in a straight line. It is the turn at the end of the straight that really separates the good riders from the posers.
 

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What PSI do you run with a 150 tire? Also, what type of Metzler tire did you get? Also, did you find 36PSI with stock tires to be a bit much? I have crappy roads here in So-Cal and with 36PSI I would be bumping up and down and hitting my balls at times during some worse roads or at higher speeds in the unmaintained freeways. 33PSI was much much better.
I got z8s, 150/70 and 110/70. I'm averaging about 2500 miles a month on this bike so sports tires just don't cut it for me. Needed something that stretches into the touring category but still sticks.
I think Im at 38 rear, 34 front or something like that. It's is probably a psi down from that now and still feels excellent.

Stocks I ran 1 or 2 psi below recommended.

I'm not anal about tire pressure. I ride daily, so it mostly just gets a visual check, and I air up every two or three weeks or when I remember.
 

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I came from a SV650 and am very happy I did. I don't need the straight line acceleration, or bloated weight, of the 600s or 1000s. For some reason mammy in America have this stupid perception that you have to go big or how home. To them I say "Shove it up your a $$"

Anyone can go fast in a straight line. It is the turn at the end of the straight that really separates the good riders from the posers.
I came from a Ninja 650R!

Agreed. The high speed capability is very low on my list of reasons to buy a bike after 8 years on the street.

Anyway, all, I very much appreciate the input, and helping me make my decision. In the end, I have opted for the GSXR 750, I was able to get the insurance down to $1200/year through allstate by cutting a few corners.

I decided not to go with the R3, primarily due to the consistent poor reviews on the suspension. However, I still don't know if they would have affected me as much being that I only way around 150 in gear.

For those who may reside in my area of New York (Bear Mountain Park), feel free to contact me via my website if you ever want to ride, Motomeets.com. I host rides regularly (when I have a bike), and I post reviews/routes of "motorcycle" roads I have ridden.

Ride safe.

-Nicky
 

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I came from a Ninja 650R!

Agreed. The high speed capability is very low on my list of reasons to buy a bike after 8 years on the street.

Anyway, all, I very much appreciate the input, and helping me make my decision. In the end, I have opted for the GSXR 750, I was able to get the insurance down to $1200/year through allstate by cutting a few corners.

I decided not to go with the R3, primarily due to the consistent poor reviews on the suspension. However, I still don't know if they would have affected me as much being that I only way around 150 in gear.

For those who may reside in my area of New York (Bear Mountain Park), feel free to contact me via my website if you ever want to ride, Motomeets.com. I host rides regularly (when I have a bike), and I post reviews/routes of "motorcycle" roads I have ridden.

Ride safe.

-Nicky
In the R3's (as well as any budget bike) defense, it IS a budget bike. The double in price of a 600/750cc super sport does t just buy you more displacement, you get adjustable suspension, electronics, better stock tires, Etc. There are front end suspension solutions these days for the R3 starting at around $600.
 
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