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So after milling on the up and coming bikes from Yamaha, I decided to pull the trigger on the R3. I put my deposit on it today, and will be getting the 1st blue R3 that is delivered to the dealership. I am pretty excited. My plan is to break it in on street, then convert it to a track bike and race it. I already am trying to line up parts for it, so I will let you guys know what I am able to come up with.

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Please keep us posted, I plan on doing the same this spring. I'll be particularly interested in what you do with the suspension/wheels and tires/brakes
 

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Sweet. Can you get one for the street and one for the track ! :)

I prefer the black one myself. I just feel there is too much white on the other one and it looks less, er; manly :)

It was mainly blue, and darker, like the R6 a few years back then that would have been my choice.
Maybe they will bring out more colors.
 

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Sweet. Can you get one for the street and one for the track ! :)

I prefer the black one myself. I just feel there is too much white on the other one and it looks less, er; manly :)

It was mainly blue, and darker, like the R6 a few years back then that would have been my choice.
Maybe they will bring out more colors.
Lol, I am a blue guy their Evolution! I did consider 2, just for that reason. I will see about it after I get the first one. I need to build a bigger garage though, running out of room :sad
 

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Awesome, congrats. Keep us posted on the process of you getting it.

Have you already started looking around for accessories and modifications to add to your bike once you get it?
 

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Have you got any HP4 vids on YouTube?
Cracking bike. I wonder if you will actually find the R3 more fun.
I don't have any vids yet. Sometimes a camera is a big distraction. But i will try to get it set up soon. As far as more fun, I believe it will be more challenging because my line and apexes will need to be dead on.
Awesome, congrats. Keep us posted on the process of you getting it.

Have you already started looking around for accessories and modifications to add to your bike once you get it?
I talked to Hotbodies today and they will have race plastics for sure, and I am already in line for them. I put a call into Graves today and left a message. I am excited to see what they may develop. I will keep looking for other things as well. Guessing may not be racing the R3 until next fall with CVMA. Just depends how quick things become available.
 

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Cool, congratz Legally! Keep us posted.
 

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I can tell you that one of the first things I will be doing is booking extra performance safety lessons to get more advanced on the R3, followed by a couple of quiet track days aimed at lower capacity bikes.

Only then will I start to think about caning it on the road..

Feck, who am I kidding.. ha. We all know as soon as we collect it from the dealer and get on to a straight we are going to rev the crap out of it! :)
 

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I can tell you that one of the first things I will be doing is booking extra performance safety lessons to get more advanced on the R3, followed by a couple of quiet track days aimed at lower capacity bikes.

Only then will I start to think about caning it on the road..

Feck, who am I kidding.. ha. We all know as soon as we collect it from the dealer and get on to a straight we are going to rev the crap out of it! :)
SHHHHHHH, how are we supposed to lie with you broadcasting the playbook >:D:D;)
 

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Pulling the trigger at this date might be a good idea. I did that when I bought my Grom and I got the price all decided. The dealer only got one in and they were so popular that other dealers were charging a premium for them. Could be dealers will only get one or two R3s in.


I can't do that again though. I need to trade in a bike since I have no more room in my garage, so I will need the dealer to have the bike on hand. I need a blue one too.


I keep my bikes stock and only replace tires when the first set wears out. Then I buy the best tires, but if I were going to replace the tires right away, I think I would try to include that in price of the new bike. You know after you negotiate the OTD price and how they tell you their bottom line and you think it is still too much money? Just say, I'll do it if you replace the tires and replace them with Michelins or whatever. I wouldn't mention tires until the end stage of the negotiations though.
 

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Ugh, you think that dealers are going to put a huge premium on the R3s? I hate having to pay way over MSRP. It irks me so much. Can you avoid this by ordering early?
 

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Pulling the trigger at this date might be a good idea. I did that when I bought my Grom and I got the price all decided. The dealer only got one in and they were so popular that other dealers were charging a premium for them. Could be dealers will only get one or two R3s in.


I can't do that again though. I need to trade in a bike since I have no more room in my garage, so I will need the dealer to have the bike on hand. I need a blue one too.


I keep my bikes stock and only replace tires when the first set wears out. Then I buy the best tires, but if I were going to replace the tires right away, I think I would try to include that in price of the new bike. You know after you negotiate the OTD price and how they tell you their bottom line and you think it is still too much money? Just say, I'll do it if you replace the tires and replace them with Michelins or whatever. I wouldn't mention tires until the end stage of the negotiations though.
When I bought my Ranger a few years back I traded the stock tires in at a local tire shop, they had something like 10 miles on them. Never tried it with a moto though...
 

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Ugh, you think that dealers are going to put a huge premium on the R3s? I hate having to pay way over MSRP. It irks me so much. Can you avoid this by ordering early?
Nah, they can't put a premium on it once the price is decided. That would be bad business, morally wrong and possibly get them in trouble.

What will happen if demand outstrips supply is that people who got on the priority lists will eiither keep them or put them back on the market for an inflated price.
e.g. if they retail and £4995 then if demand far outweighs supply then I could see them going for 5500 or even 6000 to those who have the money and are desperate to acquire one.

Bottom line - just give them the £99 deposit and get on the list - it is refundable anyway should you change your mind.
 

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I guess depending on demand and what supply is like, charging more is something they can likely get away with easily as there will be people that want to get one of these asap
 

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Ugh, you think that dealers are going to put a huge premium on the R3s? I hate having to pay way over MSRP. It irks me so much. Can you avoid this by ordering early?
The R3, no, the R1, maybe, R1M, oh yes
 

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Most dealers allow you to put a deposit down on the bike, but don't negotiate any details of the sale. In other words, it is like the right of first refusal, so when the bike comes in they call you and only then do you negotiate with them. Other dealers will negotiate the out the door price. The first way is better for the dealer, the second way is better for the customer...usually. Having bought a lot of bikes, the difference in selling price for the R3 is likely to vary by $700...out the door price, always. Never talk about anything else other than OTD price when you buy a bike. Otherwise, they rob Peter to pay Paul, provided your name is Peter, not Paul. They do this by changing or deleting all those other charges...set-up, destination, transportation, documentation fees. Notice dealers try not to talk about the OTD price...just the price of the bike, or your trade-in value. Then when they do tell you what all those other costs amount to and you agree, only then do you get led into the parts, accessory, insurance/added warranty departments so they can part you from additional money. These guys are pros as selling motorcycles, so you need to know what you are willing to pay, what a fair price is, include everything you want from the dealer in the sale.....and be prepared to walk away if you don't get it.


One advantage of a forum is that people can post their out the door price for the bike. This gives new buyers an idea of a good and a not-so-good price. I wouldn't go by California sales prices though. California will be $300 or so more than the rest of the country.


Soooo, if anyone actually pre-orders an R3, and you negotiate the out the door price, please let us know the details!
 
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