Questions Regarding R3 Technicalities ^_^

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Franco Javier

Discussion Starter · Sep 7, 2015

Question #1 :
Early today, when I was on my way home, I felt like my bike is burning my tights during a short traffic. I don't know if its overheating coz the temperature has only 3 bars. Is there something wrong with my bike? its a 3 days old bike... or am I doing something wrong with it? Does it help if I add more coolant? PS: I can only feel it during traffics, so sometimes I feel like turning the engine off.

Question #2 :
I feel like my clutch is very sensitive... Like I need to pull it all the way down to stop the bike. I'm quite new to these things

So is it just the bolts adjusters near the lever? or its normal? Coz my hands gets tired really quick especially during traffics...

Question #3 :
Sometimes, its hard to start the bike especially if its warm. Is there something wrong with my bike? But it starts really easy when cold.

Question #4 :
Currently I'm using Unleaded 91 Octane fuel and it smells lol. My dealer says not to use any higher level octanes due to that higher octanes (95+) contains chemical which I entirely doubt her theory coz I've been using 95+ octane premium Shell all the time in my Honda CBR150R and so far, it never caused me any problem at all. Can I use higher Octane fuels on my R3? Would this affect my Question #1 and the smell? LOL

Thank you guys for your insights :nerd: Truly grateful ^_^

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Lollingthunder

· #2 · Sep 7, 2015

Franco Javier said:
Question #1 :
Early today, when I was on my way home, I felt like my bike is burning my tights during a short traffic. I don't know if its overheating coz the temperature has only 3 bars. Is there something wrong with my bike? its a 3 days old bike... or am I doing something wrong with it? Does it help if I add more coolant? PS: I can only feel it during traffics, so sometimes I feel like turning the engine off.

Question #2 :
I feel like my clutch is very sensitive... Like I need to pull it all the way down to stop the bike. I'm quite new to these things So is it just the bolts adjusters near the lever? or its normal? Coz my hands gets tired really quick especially during traffics...

Question #3 :
Sometimes, its hard to start the bike especially if its warm. Is there something wrong with my bike? But it starts really easy when cold.

Question #4 :
Currently I'm using Unleaded 91 Octane fuel and it smells lol. My dealer says not to use any higher level octanes due to that higher octanes (95+) contains chemical which I entirely doubt her theory coz I've been using 95+ octane premium Shell all the time in my Honda CBR150R and so far, it never caused me any problem at all. Can I use higher Octane fuels on my R3? Would this affect my Question #1 and the smell? LOL

Thank you guys for your insights :nerd: Truly grateful ^_^

I'll answer a few of these.

The heat coming from the engine onto your leg is normal. It was probably your right leg? I noticed this heat when I ride my wife's R3, definitely hotter than my own motorcycle.

The hard/slow start on hot days seems to be an unfortunate characteristic of this bike.

There is one thread dedicated to it

IMO, 95 octane is complete overkill and unnecessary, especially for your 150cc honda. Waste of money, and the only benefit it is doing is appeasing your own mind. Unless octane ratings are different in the PI, but guessing not. 89 octane is going in my wife's R3, just use what the manual tells you to use, and if I recall correctly they recommend 87 minimum. If you need 91 or higher, the manual will specifically ask you to put premium, but that is not the case for your R3. Is your bike still new/low miles? That engine burning smell is completely normal for the first few hundred miles and will smell like that regardless of what fuel you put in it.

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WilmNCR3

· #3 · Sep 7, 2015

#1 : I'm not sure what the weather is like in the Phillipines but when it's warm here the bike does feel hot when stopped in traffic. I'd say it's normal.
#3 : Mine (and many others, there is a thread on it) do the same thing. I believe it is normal.
#4 : Mine had a "new bike breaking in" smell when the engine warmed up for a long time. It only recently went away completely and I'm at almost 2,500 Miles. I run ethanol free 87 fuel (equivalent to your 91) as it's cheap to fill up and there is a lot of controversy over the effect of ethanol in gasoline. Running a higher octane fuel appears to do nothing for a vehicle unless it is to stay away from Ethanol or if you have a tune to take advantage of it.

Enjoy your new bike! I love the Raven paint sceme but I wanted a car/motorcycle in blue one day. One thing marked off on my bucket list

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2k4_8

· #4 · Sep 7, 2015

Lollingthunder said:
I'll answer a few of these.

The heat coming from the engine onto your leg is normal. It was probably your right leg? I noticed this heat when I ride my wife's R3, definitely hotter than my own motorcycle.

The hard/slow start on hot days seems to be an unfortunate characteristic of this bike.

There is one thread dedicated to it

IMO, 95 octane is complete overkill and unnecessary, especially for your 150cc honda. Waste of money, and the only benefit it is doing is appeasing your own mind. Unless octane ratings are different in the PI, but guessing not. 89 octane is going in my wife's R3, just use what the manual tells you to use, and if I recall correctly they recommend 87 minimum. If you need 91 or higher, the manual will specifically ask you to put premium, but that is not the case for your R3. Is your bike still new/low miles? That engine burning smell is completely normal for the first few hundred miles and will smell like that regardless of what fuel you put in it.

I'm guessing the op is not in the US, and uses a different gasoline grading system.

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FangShui

· #5 · Sep 7, 2015

Philippines must use the Research Octane Number (RON) only, like they do in Europe.

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Junpower

· #6 · Sep 7, 2015

#1 Normal for the bike to get hot around the engine in stop and go, your thighs need more chaffing

#2 Keep riding and stretch that cable out, clutch hand getting tired? Keep working that clutch and your forearms will get stronger.

#3 Hot starts are harder on this bike. Just make sure when you start while hot you press the starter button longer then you think you have to. I got used to it.

#4 I use 87 Regular, once used 89 Plus from my local Chevron in California which has a unknown amount of ethanol. Both didn't seem to make a difference. You can use higher octanes but waste of coin if you ask me. The new bike smell took about 500 miles to go away from mine.

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Capitalview

· #7 · Sep 7, 2015

Using a high octane gas is pointless unless you have a high compression engine to take advantage of it. Unless you are getting engine ping stick with the 87 or 91 octane, or whatever RON is average over in the Philippines.

Reading reports here it seems the rest is pretty normal.

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Lollingthunder

· #8 · Sep 7, 2015

Oh ok, I just googled RON. Ugh, stuff like this is always confusing on international boards.

87/91 is fine. I know some people out there insist on using 91/95, to your original question, no it will not hurt the bike if you use 95 octane.

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Vince

· #9 · Sep 7, 2015

take a picture on your clutch lever/cable area?
mine came in super tight that I had to borrow tools just to loose it up and get comfy for mine(almost no friction zone, stayed really far out and I had to reach out the clutch at the beginning until adjusted)

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Junpower

· #10 · Sep 7, 2015

mikee26 said:
how much is the yamaha R3 cost in PESOS? reason for me asking is I'm a filipino..want to buy one there when i take my vacation next March..thank you.. i feel heat coming out on my Yamaha R3 when i'm on a stop..i guess its normal as long as its 3 bars on your temp guage..

LOL weird question because you can use a currency converter but here.
About
258139.75 PESOS.:nerd:

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Yamamama

· #11 · Sep 8, 2015 (Edited)

I'm not 100% sure I understood your question about the clutch, but if it doesn't disengage completely when you've pulled the lever all the way in, you have too much free play, not too little. Those of us with small hands can usually get away with building in a *little* more free play than the manual calls for, but too much will mean you won't get the cable travel you need to completely disengage the clutch. Try taking it back to manual spec, which is page 7-19 in the USA manual, might be different in yours. (Measuring the travel at the end of the lever is different .... but not going to confuse you with how it's normally done.

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But, if you're talking about the rear wheel still spinning a little when you've got the bike up on the rear stand and put it in gear with the clutch pulled in (or in neutral), that's normal - that's just oil drag. You should be able to stop the wheel with your hand, and it should take very little force to keep it from turning. But, just generally, it's not a good idea to have the engine running with the bike up on the stand unless you have a particular reason for doing that, and adjusting the clutch isn't it. You know all those people you see in the bike shop missing the end of a finger or two ...

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Franco Javier

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 8, 2015

Okay! I got it ^_^ Thank you guys for letting me know that its all normal (for Q1 & Q3) ^_^

As for Q2, I got it fixed by letting my dealer 3s shop adjusts the clutch bolts and its now running better

For Q4, Good to know that Oct 91 is enough, coz well fuel these days ain't cheap lol and I only thought of using Oct 95+ for it might have something to do with the heat or in the smell... LOL

And yes Oct 91 is enough for me lol. I don't really feel any difference on my CBR when I use Oct 95 and Oct 100. People in the internet says that it gives more power, tho srsly I don't really feel it lol.

And for the Filipino guy... Its 239,000.00 PHP + 11K for the Theft Insurance. ^_^

Thanks a lot guys tho pls do let me know if there's something that I can do to prevent the heat on the left side. Again thanks a lot!

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