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End of April...


Announced on Instagram an hour ago.







had just got off the phone to the Honda dealer and lined up a CBR and 99% decided on it.
Saw ABS standard :( on the R3, Big disappointment.


Honda is looking very attractive at $5400 ride away, R3 price should come soon.
 

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Its finally here, we're the last in the world to get them,
media contingent sensibly testing them like mature adults for the past few days






 

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When you convert 6490-6990 on road to US$ (80% atmo)we actually get them very cheap.


Even less when you consider our OTD cost doesn't have the add ons they get hit with.
ABS is usually a $500 premium, we're stuck with that.
 

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When you convert 6490-6990 on road to US$ (80% atmo)we actually get them very cheap.


Even less when you consider our OTD cost doesn't have the add ons they get hit with.
ABS is usually a $500 premium, we're stuck with that.
That's a REALLY good price, especially for one with ABS.

Are the import tariffs and taxes different on motorcycles than on cars?

I've noticed that cars in Oz are bloody expensive....
 

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That's a REALLY good price, especially for one with ABS.

Are the import tariffs and taxes different on motorcycles than on cars?

I've noticed that cars in Oz are bloody expensive....
Cars are subject to higher initial import duty than motorcycles, and also to other layers of taxation and particularly a tax called the Luxury Car Tax, which applies above a wholesale threshold. It was all the protect the local car manufacturers (GM, Ford & Toyota), all of whom have now decided to cease manufacturing in Australia in the next few years.

Australia has also been one of the most stable and better performing economies since the GFC and pretty well everything here costs more than the US or in other developed economies. The extra cost is known locally and colloquially as the Australia Tax, and reflects that most sellers understand that the Australian market is generally acclimatised to higher prices so they can charge more in Australia, and they do. That said there is growing consumer resentment about he behaviour of importers / retailers here and it is driving a massive growth in online purchases from overseas, and particularly the US.

Kudos to yamaha for setting a sensible price on the R3 in Australia.
 

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Agreed Australia is expensive :(
Sydney is the most expensive city in the world to live in I heard recently.
but...
Cant wait for the R3 :)
 

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That's a REALLY good price, especially for one with ABS.

Are the import tariffs and taxes different on motorcycles than on cars?

I've noticed that cars in Oz are bloody expensive....

Yeah as our Industry is on its way out but semi protected.
Ford Au closing doors on the Falcon production
GM-H Holden ceasing in 2017 (Big 6&V8 RWD family cars/Muscle cars & Utes)
Exported to USA as Pontiac G8's.
Not sure if Flagship Statesman's are still going to the middle east.
The Holden V8 'Pontiacs' are cheaper to buy in the USA than they are here.


Price of a Corolla is $20k
Price of a 4x4 diesel Hilux is $50k
Don't even think about a Dodge Ram or Chev P/U, they are over 100k as not imported here (Yet)


Ninja 250/300 has been biggest seller for 30 yrs,
Its a market share that Honda and Yamaha want some pie too, so price is important.


Hard to compare prices between countries as wages, cost of living has to be balanced too.
eg a new 300 is less than 10% of the average annual wage of 75k
But an average house at $450k is 6 yrs wages.


1000cc bikes have come down to $16-17kAu for the Blade and ZX10,
New R1 is $23k being a new model, R1M is near $30k like a Panigale.
600's still expensive at $14-15kAu as they don't have the numbers.


On road costs are cheap in my State, 3% Stamp duty, and $250 per yr for a 300cc bike, no setup fee's etc.
My R3 will come under $6500Au. on the road ready to ride away 12 months lic, 2 yrs unlimited warranty, and ABS.


CBR300 Non ABS is $5400 Ride Away
Ninja 300 non ABS is $6200 Ride Away
KTM RC390 is $7800 ride away.
$1Au =80cents US


But don't get me started on the price to send my Hotbodies fairing here!
FedEx must be hiring a private Jet :(
 

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Yeah as our Industry is on its way out but semi protected.
Ford Au closing doors on the Falcon production
GM-H Holden ceasing in 2017 (Big 6&V8 RWD family cars/Muscle cars & Utes)
Exported to USA as Pontiac G8's.
Not sure if Flagship Statesman's are still going to the middle east.
The Holden V8 'Pontiacs' are cheaper to buy in the USA than they are here.



Thanks for the info.

Average individual wage here is $45,000 ($56,700 AUS), average household income is $50,000 ($63,000 AUS). Average house price is $325,000 ($409,500 AUS)

You wouldn’t want a Ram pickup anyway; Dodge/Chrysler is the least reliable of the U.S. brands. Best to stick with a Toyota, like a Tundra. Highest quality out there.

Corollas start at $16,000 ($20,000 AUS) here. R1 is $16,500 ($20,800 AUS) and R1M is $22,000 ($27,700 AUS)

My R3 was $5,345 ($6,752 AUS) OTD, 1 year warranty, no ABS

Love the Holden UTEs, especially the SS V Redline and the SS Storm models. Wish we had those here.

Sorry to see your government give up on your auto industry. I read that Toyota is going to be ceasing production there, too. Looks like no cars will be locally made in Australia anymore except for some niche customs.

I’m guessing you are in the Perth area?
 

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Thanks for the info.

I’m guessing you are in the Perth area?

Thankyou, that's interesting.
So when it all breaks down, its relatively the same,
As the USA all states here are vastly different too,
We call it 'The mining tax' why we pay $6 for a decent coffee here in the West. or $10 for a Beer, or $40 for a steak, makes bikes seem cheap!


I'm from the Far southern coast where its cold,
but Race in Perth and another track halfway there.
Dealer support in Perth where I'll ride the bike the 500km home,
I'll know the top speed at least after half an hour.
 

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Spoke to my local Yammy dealer.
They said first week of June will be there first shipment.
Probably go down on the weekend and leave a deposit to secure one.
$6990 rideaway. Guessing there wont be room for haggling.
Raven will probably be my first choice.
 

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Drove to Perth to buy it, ride a Demo on Saturday, and see on display at ASBK Superbike round.

None of the above eventuated. At Least the racing was worth the 1200km trip.

Saw my regular city dealer, glad I told him I wanted it licensed,
He hadn't prepared for that. (Best to get track bikes licensed when new)
discussed Insurance but no classification yet. Tried on a Bell Star Carbon and fell in love.


Going back up again this weekend, Monday is a Public Holiday for 'Western Australia Day',
Not coming home without it.
Even If I have to hjack a boat and go hunting the Timor sea off Indonesia for the Junk that's taken 7 months to get here.
 

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Ready to roll, Getting it tomorrow :)


This has been a very long wait.
 
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