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The question is... does one wait for an R3 or get an R6 now or later instead of an R3.

I started all this sports bike hunt as I wanted more power for fun that the PCX can offer. I originally looked at a green Ninja 300 and was more than happy and then whilst doing some research on the bike I saw a link to a NEW R3 from Yamaha.

Umm, I thought, that sounds interesting as I always been a huge fan of the R6 (though it scared the crap out of me when I tried one) and this would surely be a safer, slightly less scary proposition...

I had a look at it and although I was a bit miffed at the colour choices it looked perfect to me and my heart is set on it.

However, and this is strange to me but perhaps natural.. I keep watching R6 videos on YouTube and occasionally I can't help feeling that I would rather get an R6.
I know it is currently beyond me but I have this nagging devil on my shoulder which is telling me to just get the bike that I always wanted.
I am getting a little worried that when/if I am on the R3 and I see an R6, I will be filled with regret and jealousy. A small part of it, if I am honest, is that I don't like the idea that 'real men' will look down on the R3 as anything smaller than a 600 is for boys... :) This wouldn't be enough in itself to put me off but just another small factor that builds up.
A bigger factor is that I will get complacent/bored with the power or delivery of the R3 and wish I had more - something that will NOT happen with an R6.

At the end of the day, there is no point worrying about it for now as I won't be in the market unril the R3 is released, at least, and I will then ride both and also the Ninja and CBR and then make my final decision.

In the R3s favour, it will be cheaper than even a fairly old R6 so the R3 represents great value for money assuming it comes in under 5K.

I am currently 80 to 20 in favour of the R3 but there is that niggling doubt..

What do you think?
Is the R6 going to be the right bike for you or should you jumo up to the R6?
 

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I would wait for a R6 update, ride the R3 for now. not saying the R6 is bad, because it is a wonderful bike, but R6 has been the same for many years. It is very fast when you use it right, in fact one of my favorite bikes. Become efficient with the R3 and then at a certain point, you will likely want more. However, I think you will be able to look back at humble beginnings and appreciate it a lot. Technique developed on the R3 will only make you better at the R6. The R6 is a capable high 10's 1/4 mile bike, which makes it no slouch. i would guess the R3 would run in the 12's. More time to react to things, less power to make a mistake. Mistakes minimized are best for longevity lol. Besides, if you are on the fence, less is better, although you will here many other say they went with the R6 first and they were fine. What you don't usually hear is about the guys who chose the R6 and then crash. But I promise that happens unfortunately. After a while of riding, you are bound to loose friends, and that is the crusher. I don't think you will regret the R3, and it should be pretty resalable in the event you change your mind. Plus, starting low allows you to appreciate different aspects of bikes, then upgrading gives you a true comparison. And if you start doing track days, the R3 will be super cost efficient over the R6. The faster the bike, the quicker you go though fuel and tires.
 

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I have to agree with legallyfast. Starting off straight to a 600cc will be less forgiving than a 300cc. Most people who tells you 300cc are not enough aren't riding the bike to the fullest. If you think you can ride straight at max speed of the bike doesn't mean you master the bike. Take you bike to the track and see what you learn. Take advance course and you'll find yourself as a newbie. Lastly, don't let other rider determine your ride. Real friends won't let you ride unsafe or out of your comfort level. For example, my cousin who didn't listen to me went out and bought a Truimph 675 a long time ago and crash like one week afterward. (He was braking too hard in a highway corner exit instead of changing gear before the corner and slowing down with countersteer.) GL!
 

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Yeah, I KNOW I don;t really want an R6... :)

As I mentioned before, I rode one once and for a long time - from a mate.
It scared the crap out of me and I was relieved when I finished. I didn't realise how mentally exhausting it was until i got off and my legs almost gave way - probably from gripping the fuel tank for grim death! :)

Still, it is an ITCH that won;t go away.

I am back up to 90/10 - haha.
The sensible thing to do is definitely get an R3 and then give it a couple of years, and the R3 will still be under warranty and worth a lot, and trade in for an R6 - IF I even want an R6 by them.

I absolutely plan on getting some track/safe area instructor time when/if I get the R3.
 

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The R6 is well overdue an update, probably for 2016 now?

The R3 and R6 are quite different. You don't need more than a 600cc motorcycle on UK roads. If you want a bike the does everything and can be ridden in a spirited way, consider something like a 600cc Fazer.

I'm looking at the R3 as I want a motorcycle where I can use all its power and performance. The RR8 Fireblade indicates around 97mph in first gear and is fun enough to ride below 6000rpm ..... but it revs to 13000rpm.

Hope I can keep up with the larger machines on the twisties!
 

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Twisties is where a light, nimble 300 will excel but you still have to be a decent rider.

Yeah, the R6 will scare me, I will never get past 8000.
I keep watching vids on YouTube and I laugh at how made it is.

The R3 is more than enough for sure.
 

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Unless you re-gear the R6 for lower RPM, and lower torque (which I see no reason as to why to do this on an R6, it's not an eco machine), I would also start with the R3.

You'd not meet the first person this year that rides his 250/300 bike more than its big bike.
Many riders of bigger bikes are just tired of the weight, cost, and pains their bigger bikes give them.

If riding is what you want, the R3 gives you most of everything.
If showing off, or feeling a sense of belonging in a R6 club is what you're looking for, then buy an R6.

I love riding, and started out with a bicycle, moved to a moped, 50cc scooter, 150cc scooter, 250cc scooter, 250cc motorcycle, and regretted any bike I bought above 400lbs, my personal dividing line between a fast and nimble bike, and a heavy rhino.
Even the 389lbs 250cc scooter felt heavy.

Safety comes first. Enjoyment second. And show offs, and danger last.

3000 miles is enough to get the basics of a bike, and jump over to a bigger bike.
selling the R3 with 3k miles on it, should give you enough money, with whatever you saved that year, to pay off 50% of the R6.

But you might possibly decide, that the R3 is all you really want .
 

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Unless you re-gear the R6 for lower RPM, and lower torque (which I see no reason as to why to do this on an R6, it's not an eco machine), I would also start with the R3.

You'd not meet the first person this year that rides his 250/300 bike more than its big bike.
Many riders of bigger bikes are just tired of the weight, cost, and pains their bigger bikes give them.

If riding is what you want, the R3 gives you most of everything.
If showing off, or feeling a sense of belonging in a R6 club is what you're looking for, then buy an R6.

I love riding, and started out with a bicycle, moved to a moped, 50cc scooter, 150cc scooter, 250cc scooter, 250cc motorcycle, and regretted any bike I bought above 400lbs, my personal dividing line between a fast and nimble bike, and a heavy rhino.
Even the 389lbs 250cc scooter felt heavy.

Safety comes first. Enjoyment second. And show offs, and danger last.

3000 miles is enough to get the basics of a bike, and jump over to a bigger bike.
selling the R3 with 3k miles on it, should give you enough money, with whatever you saved that year, to pay off 50% of the R6.

But you might possibly decide, that the R3 is all you really want .
Buying a R6 doesn't make you a showoff, so lets take that comment with a grain of salt. The people who buy an r6 and show off are show offs ;). The r3 has its place as a perfect commuter bike, but when i head to the mountains or track you bet im taking the r6.
 

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Ignore Eco riders 'Gear it up' sermons, he trolls many forums with the same old blah blah and it gets old fast,.


Test ride them all and buy the one that keeps the juices flowing.
Bikes are an emotive passionate personal toy,
If you have pride in your ride,
that alone is the best discipline.
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