[Tritons Terrific Trident]

Hi guys,

New to the site and looking forward to the R3 hitting the USA.

I found this page which has a great table showing the specifications of the three main learner sportsbikes. From my reading, the R3 definately wins on paper. More HP, better brakes, lighter, and so on. Looking really good!

http://therideadvice.com/yamaha-r3-vs-kawasaki-ninja-300-vs-honda-cbr300r-specification-comparison/

 

[u3c307]

R3 definately wins on paper. Hope RC390 comes out in time for them to really ride it out to compare all of them. If RC390 didn't come out in time the R3 will win regardless since it just has superior forks, brakes, and tires. I guess no one has really test the R3 so it's just a guess and personally when they say 42 HP probably means at crank not at the wheels.

 

[barett]

R3 definately wins on paper. Hope RC390 comes out in time for them to really ride it out to compare all of them. If RC390 didn't come out in time the R3 will win regardless since it just has superior forks, brakes, and tires. I guess no one has really test the R3 so it's just a guess and personally when they say 42 HP probably means at crank not at the wheels.

You think so? I don't know the RC has that upside down WP suspension, 4 pot calli up front and 1 pot in back vs the 2 pot calli and 1 pot out back for the R3.

Naturally all that has cost involved. I see the RC as the supersport of the bunch, overqualified if you will...

 

[YR3]

I agree, RC does seem to be more in the supersport category.

 

[Yamahahaha]

I think that was a strategic move for KTM. They want to play at the top end of the segment to pick up sales from people who are looking for something very powerful but still in the range of the rest of these 300cc bikes.

 

[OneTwo]

I think that was a strategic move for KTM. They want to play at the top end of the segment to pick up sales from people who are looking for something very powerful but still in the range of the rest of these 300cc bikes.

KTM does not have the manufacturing efficiency to compete with Honda and Yamaha on volume and price...

 

[barett]

Price
HONDA CBR300R $4,399
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 $5,299
YAMAHA R3 $4,990

Engine
HONDA CBR300R 286cc 4 stroke, single-cylinder
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 296cc 4 stroke, parallel twin
YAMAHA R3 321cc 4 stroke, parallel twin

Bore And Stroke
HONDA CBR300R 76mm x 63mm
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 62mm x 49 mm
YAMAHA R3 68 x 44 mm

Compression Ratio
HONDA CBR300R 10.7:1
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 10.6:1
YAMAHA R3 11.2:1

Horsepower
HONDA CBR300R 30.50 hp @ 8,500 rpm
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 38.89 hp @ 11,000 rpm
YAMAHA R3 42 hp @ 10,750 rpm

Torque
HONDA CBR300R 20 lb ft @ 7,500 rpm
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 19.91 lb ft @ 10,000 rpm
YAMAHA R3 21.18 lb ft @ 9,000

Seat Height
HONDA CBR300R 30.7 inches
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 30.9 inches
YAMAHA R3 30.7 inches

Wet Weight
HONDA CBR300R 364 lb
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 383 lb
YAMAHA R3 368 lb

Fuel Capacity
HONDA CBR300R 3.4 gallons
KAWASAKI NINJA 300 4.5 gallons
YAMAHA R3 3.7 gallons

 

[Evotion]

One has to remember, ON PAPER isn't the be all and end all.
There will surely be some R3 prospective buyers who once they sit or test ride one of the rivals will actually prefer the rival. It can come down to looks, riding position, confort, useabiliy, price and just how it makes you feel and how it gives feel back on the road.
It might prove too scary for complete beginners who will likely prefer the Honda.
Hardcore track riders might prefer the RC....

I am not going to base my decision on which is the fastest... I can just get a bigger faster bike for not much more if that was the case.
For me, the bike has to tick a lot of boxes and I do honestly believe it wll be the R3 - just not going to assume it is the right bike for me, come the time.

 

[YR3]

That is true, can't get all caught up in what is being said on paper, you do have to go with it to some extent but getting out there and riding is what should ultimately be done

 

[u3c307]

Correct, the specs doesn't show everything. It is always best to test ride your bike before buying since it determine how the seating comfort, the feel of the bike, cons, and etc... Of course, first bike are usually rarely tested because the new rider doesn't obviously know what to expect from a good bike vs a bad bike. Therefore, they use the spec sheet to determine their first bike purchases.