[David Golda]

Hey guys,

i was searching through forum and i couldn't find any answers. I just did my basic research on sprockets size and gearing changes. It's very difficult topic though and very hard to imagine the result with just looking on numbers. Basically I'm looking for a way to add more torque to my R3 running stock sprockets and chain - 14/43 520. I'm looking to change the gearing for way more torque. I don't really care about top speed since I do not commute on highways and I live in the EU so the speed limits are really strict here with police around every corner. I'm not racing or anything I just want more torque to have fun around town. Also don't want to overkill it making the gearing and the bike too jerky.

If anyone went for torque with sprocket size could you please post your setup with sizes of chain etc?
I just want to know what is safe to go for and what types to order.

I wanted to try following:
stock front and +3 rear
-1 front and +2 rear

Is it possible to go for -1 front +3 rear? Is it safe?

Thanks for the replies guys I really do appreciate the help.

Cheers,
David

 

[airhead83]

I'll avoid making suggestions. But, I have a few links below that allow for calculations in changes of sprockets and chains. Maybe someone else will chime in on specifics. But these charts allow you to see the percentages in changes for torque and speed as you play with the combinations. Just plug in numbers and it does the rest. Good Luck. :nerd:
https://sprocketcalculator.com/
https://www.drivenracing.com/driven-calculator

 

[GoFaster]

The stock front sprocket has 14 teeth, which is a frequently recommended minimum for chain longevity.


My race bike has 14-47 for the smaller tracks around here, 14-45 on it now for a track day next weekend at a longer track. (Stock is 14-43)


You will need a 2 link longer chain to use 14-47, and then 14-45 is at the limit of the chain adjusters - this works for me. I don't know how many teeth you can add on the rear without using a longer chain, I just know 47 won't fit with the stock chain. 45 probably would. No idea about 46.

 

[bbsteinnewyork]

Go with larger diameter sprockets to active greater leverage on the wheel. Gear ratio matters but not it is a different type of leverage.

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[Maverick]

You must not have looked very hard as I know I've posted on 3 or 4 threads over the years on this topic.

Page one of the drive train topic forum has a post about them and the general discussion forum has a few

Basically it comes down to if you want to keep the stock chain length or not, many configurations require subtreacting\adding links. There's only a few variations that can utilize the stock length

I've gone -1 on the front and it had noticeably more torque and used the OEM chain. Just remember any sprocket change will require a speedohealer to correct your speedometer.

 

[DabbinDD]

I went ahead and installed -1 on the front sprocket recently, as Maverick mentioned, it does give a bit more noticeable torque.


I've like it enough that I also plan to buy +2 for the rear sprocket, I've noticed some sites selling this as a Acceleration Kit in itself.


Since my speedometer was off I went with the cheaper option (and much smaller unit) of the SpeedDRD speedometer healer. For $70 it works perfectly and is very easy to install/setup.

 

[Eazy 21Prez]

The stock front sprocket has 14 teeth, which is a frequently recommended minimum for chain longevity.


My race bike has 14-47 for the smaller tracks around here, 14-45 on it now for a track day next weekend at a longer track. (Stock is 14-43)


You will need a 2 link longer chain to use 14-47, and then 14-45 is at the limit of the chain adjusters - this works for me. I don't know how many teeth you can add on the rear without using a longer chain, I just know 47 won't fit with the stock chain. 45 probably would. No idea about 46.

I just took off 14 front 47 rear with the stock chain. I’m now

The stock front sprocket has 14 teeth, which is a frequently recommended minimum for chain longevity.


My race bike has 14-47 for the smaller tracks around here, 14-45 on it now for a track day next weekend at a longer track. (Stock is 14-43)


You will need a 2 link longer chain to use 14-47, and then 14-45 is at the limit of the chain adjusters - this works for me. I don't know how many teeth you can add on the rear without using a longer chain, I just know 47 won't fit with the stock chain. 45 probably would. No idea about 46.

14 front and 47 rear still works with a stock chain. I down think it will work with a 48 rear so I just went -1 front and +2 rear witch should be the same as having 14/48

 

[Sean A. Walters Sr.]

TOP SPEED?

 

[Sean A. Walters Sr.]

SPEED

IF I GO -1/+2

 

[stefan5641]

Hey guys, I was just reading this discussion, I want to replace my rear sprocket and go for a 44 one. On the sprocket calculator it says that I need a 114 chain, my question is can I get away by using a 112 one. I have a 2016 R3.

 

[GoFaster]

That's only one tooth more than stock. It will work with the stock-length chain. BUT ... I always buy a chain longer than needed, position the axle roughly where I want it in the adjustment slot (with the new sprockets installed), and then choose the link that needs to be taken out to get the chain the right length. Don't care how many links. I don't know how many links are in the chain that's on the bike now. It has the sprockets that I want on there and it has the axle where I want it in the adjustment slot!

 

[KevinW 2017R3]

The only way to increase torque is to increase the ratio between sprockets, which will have the knock on effect of reducing top speed in every gear, and overall top speed at redline. The difference in rear wheel torque is the difference in ratio. This is all covered clearly here: Sprocket Calculator - The easy motorcycle sprocket and chain calculator