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I am new to this forum. I am in Australia and looking for a good bike to commute to work daily with my wife. I am 6.1 and 100 kgs and my wife is 60 kgs. I have a unrestricted license. I am looking to spend max 9k on the bike. My daily ride would be 30 kms each side. I am struck between Yamaha R3 and Honda CBR500. Both have ABS as standard. Earlier i rode bikes in India upto 350cc. I would like it to be economical and low on maintainence. Out of the 30 kms nearly 25 kms is freeway with speed upto 100 kmph. I am getting R3 for $7000 and Honda CBR500 for $7650. Please suggest.
 

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Both would be great beginner bikes. Both are good for commuting. The 500 will have more power obviously which matters when you have your wife on th bike. If it's just for you though, the R3 is probably a ton more fun to ride through twisty roads and the race track. Maintenance will be similar with either bike.
 

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If primarily for commuting with passenger, the 500 would likely be a better choice if you're carrying 160 kg or so. More rubber, more power, and maybe a bit more passenger comfort.
 

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Hello Guys,

I am new to this forum. I am in Australia and looking for a good bike to commute to work daily with my wife. I am 6.1 and 100 kgs and my wife is 60 kgs. I have a unrestricted license. I am looking to spend max 9k on the bike. My daily ride would be 30 kms each side. I am struck between Yamaha R3 and Honda CBR500. Both have ABS as standard. Earlier i rode bikes in India upto 350cc. I would like it to be economical and low on maintainence. Out of the 30 kms nearly 25 kms is freeway with speed upto 100 kmph. I am getting R3 for $7000 and Honda CBR500 for $7650. Please suggest.
The CBR500R REALLY isn't great for two-up riding. The passenger seat/pillion is a tiny, very uncomfortable appartus for torture (as is the R3's ). I'm not sure your marriage would survive making your wife ride on that! ;)

Instead, look at the CB500X. It is the best of the CB500 lineup. It has a one-piece seat that puts the passenger almost on the same level as the rider and has much better padding (can also easily add a gel pad on top of it if necessary). For regular two-up riding the 'X' is WAY,WAY better than the CBR500R and cheaper (CBR500R is $7,999 RRP, Rideaway is $9,028 AUD) (CB500X RRP in Australia is $7,599 AUD. Rideaway is $8,542 AUD).

Plus, there is a decent windshield on the 'X '(much improved for the 2016 models) for much better wind protection than on the CBR500R and the CB500X gets great reviews.

R3 is too small for regular two-up riding IMHO. Great for one person, though.

I have a 2013 CB500X and love it. Mine is set up for Adventure Riding with knobby tires, crash bars, extra lights, skid plate, etc. and is awesome.
 

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Thank you for your valuable inputs. They are offering a year end discount I suppose. Its $7680 on road price. I dont like the looks of CB500X. Can you suggest some other naked bike in the same peice range with a better pillion seating option.
 

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I use to ride a CBR500R, more mellow ride. The CBR's motor is hard to describe. Its a bit electric feeling to me, does not wind out, you hit torque instantly compared to the R3. I would call it a better long distance bike but generally speaking not as fun a the R3, I never took a passenger on either bike though.
 

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Honestly, if I can only choose one type of motorcycle where I have to 2-up, I would neither choose an R3 or a CBR500R. Maybe when I was young and would've cared about how me and my girl would look. But nowadays, I would care more about how the bike handles at low speeds when you 2-up. And I do not like going 2-up on the R3 or any sportbike for that matter.
 

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Please suggest a good bike in my budget. I dont mind a second hand bike.
I came from the Kawasaki Versys 650. It was a great 2 up bike and plenty of sport in her. The top box on the rear was great not only for storage but for passenger comfort. I downsized when I no longer went on longer day rides. My rides now are mostly 20 miles or less.


 

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Thank you for your valuable inputs. They are offering a year end discount I suppose. Its $7680 on road price. I dont like the looks of CB500X. Can you suggest some other naked bike in the same peice range with a better pillion seating option.
Look for a 2013-2014 CB400 with low miles/kms on it.

It has one of the best engines out there (has V-TEC), great performance, very good passenger seating, light weight at 195kg, good fuel range with 18 liter tank, low seat height at 755mm, 53HP and 38 Nm, 13,000 rpm redline. This is the engine they should have put in the R3 and just made it an R4! If the naked CB400 had been sold in the U.S. (it hasn't and probably never will be) I'd absolutely have bought it instead of the R3.

Throw a bikini fairing on it and it would be great for commuting AND riding the twisties. Don't let the fact that it is a LAMS bike put you off. It MOVES and handles GREAT! Cheaper insurance, too.

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VirusRider's review on a test ride


With IXIL exhaust and no baffle

 

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Look for a 2013-2014 CB400 with low miles on it.

It has one of the best engines out there (has V-TEC), great performance, very good passenger seating, light weight at 195kg, good fuel range with 18 liter tank, low seat height at 755mm, 53HP and 38 Nm, 13,000 rpm redline. This is the engine they should have put in the R3 and just made it an R4! If the naked CB400 had been sold in the U.S. (it hasn't and probably never will be) I'd absolutely have bought it instead of the R3.

Throw a bikini fairing on it and it would be great for commuting AND riding the twisties. Don't let the fact that it is a LAMS bike put you off. It MOVES and handles GREAT! Cheaper insurance, too.

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VirusRider's review on a test ride

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkyQLgpPOAY&ab_channel=VirusRider

With IXIL exhaust and no baffle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB8CZUEhjeo&ab_channel=VirusRider
I love and would totally get that cb400 if offered here in the states. This would sell like hot cakes over here.
 

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I love and would totally get that cb400 if offered here in the states. This would sell like hot cakes over here.
I doubt it. Sure, there are lots of sensible riders and people looking to find a smaller, lighter bike for everyday use, canyons and track days. But lets not forget there are tons of new riders that just HAVE to start on a 600 and then move on to a litre bike 3 months later when they outgrow the 600. They HAVE to get that litre bike and the matching wife beater, flip flops and shorts. I believe there are far more "image" riders out there than there are sensible ones looking to get a small displacement everyday bike.
 

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For the money you're looking at, you could pick up something on the Sportster platform used (<20,000 miles). Reasonably dependable, 400+ lb rider/passenger load rated, and with care, good resale value. There's quite a range:
 

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For the money you're looking at, you could pick up something on the Sportster platform used (<20,000 miles). Reasonably dependable, 400+ lb rider/passenger load rated, and with care, good resale value. There's quite a range:
He's in Australia, land of Harleys with stratospheric prices, even used.
 

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Thank you all for your time and valuable experience. I am unable to find CB400 because not many are interested in selling. Only models available are 2009-2012. And are asking exaggerated price. How about kawasaki er6nl. Is it a good bike. Pillion seat seams to be reasonably big. The other bikes i am looking at is 2012 Harley 883 used @ $9000 approximate 15000 kms run and New Honda VT750S.
 

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Thank you all for your time and valuable experience. I am unable to find CB400 because not many are interested in selling. Only models available are 2009-2012. And are asking exaggerated price. How about kawasaki er6nl. Is it a good bike. Pillion seat seams to be reasonably big. The other bikes i am looking at is 2012 Harley 883 used @ $9000 approximate 15000 kms run and New Honda VT750S.
ER6N could be a good choice. Great engine. Passenger seat isn't the best but would be acceptable for the distance you say you'll be commuting. Since you have an unrestricted license, the non-LAMS model would be better to buy.

The other two bikes you mentioned are dinosuars that haven't been significantly updated in Eons, and are badly in need of it. Also, neither of them are naked bikes and if that's what you truly want I doubt you'd be happy with either one.

I'll throw one more out there and then I'll bow out and let others chime in.

Benelli BN 600i.........probably find one discounted as end-of-year special.

http://www.bikepoint.com.au/bikes/?...ice=[Bikesales])&sort=Price&SearchAction=Sort

Good luck with your search.
 
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