Yes, we are all learning from each other. There is nothing wrong with speaking your mind. Ive accidently posted alot of bad info on here, just to have it corrected by members. Now I know. Asking "dumb" questions, and learning from my many fails and mistakes is how I grow.I find that is an extreme judgement call on your behalf for a professional who ran engines for his entire career of 35+ years - it could be very well be me not correctly repeating what he said.
This guy built his own motorcycle, boat and jetski engines so he must know something. I take full responsibility for sharing without understanding.
Shell Canada has a '0% ethanol' premium grade which should be the most popular grade for engines that are stored for the winter. Not many people know about or even care enough about it.
I discovered this link only today while googling.
Guess it depends on each Country?
But does wonders when it freezes - darn I forget at what temp! Bing/Google time.
You should come up north for a visit in Jan/Feb to check some winter sports if you haven't already! I might join you.
It's very true! I believe most of us here are learning from each other and also get facts corrected by more experienced individuals like yourself who can break it down in basic English. (i.e. ethanol sucks water out of air). Search engines don't necessarily point me in the right direction and if they do, the sites/videos use words tend to be from a different language and I lose interest. More fun learning from live individuals than sites IMHO.
Thanks for contributing and I'll make sure to be more effective in my fact sharing.
No disrespect to this site again but if thats the case that is incredibly depressing. I just opened a fuel quality post from 2015 and it had a total of 150 responses...it was the top thread under that topic. I haven't really been in a forum much since I was young and the Toyota Camry specific forum had exponentially more activity...I preferred the smaller communities but the bigger sites were just a goldmine of info from people who'd done it all.This one. I think there's a facebook group of some sort but never looked at it.
I'm not really sure what you expect? Here's a couple of reasons why:the Toyota Camry specific forum had exponentially more activity...
forgive me if this is already pointed out but I noticed this in the manual, so I would gather this is euro and US 91 is minimum not 87.You should probably change the poll to specify the octane values a bit better. 91 in one country is completely different in another so it will mislead riders.
America / Canada Australia / New Zealand / Most of the world AKI 87 = RON 91 AKI 90 = RON 95 AKI 93 = RON 98
Our manuals appear to say the same thing but in different ways in regards to what fuel is acceptable. The code for my manual in NZ is 'YZF-R3AJ' which is different from what I saw some of you post in other threads - but it's essential saying the same thing (See below image).
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What I take from that is 91 (87 in the US) octane is recommended, as are fuels with an E10 value of ethanol - that is, fuel containing a maximum of 10% ethanol. My dealer told me to run 91 (87 US) and that's what I've been running. However, I've also used high octane 95, and 98 and haven't noticed a difference in performance (I don't pay attention to mileage).
Where the octane values matter is in high compression engines where you must run a higher octane rating to avoid knocking. There's a really brilliant explanation of this in the first post in the link below. I recommend anyone who is confused to have a read of it when they have some time.
This was more a commentary on forum usage in general now versus 10-20 years ago. The Camry solara was a 2 door variant from 99-06 and the site I’m talking about was just for that model, much like r3 forums, even adjusted for discrepancies in numbers sold there’s a massive difference. Having said that I don’t blame the r3 or it’s owners or this site, again the Facebook presence for r3’s is exponentially larger and that’s just depressing to me.I'm not really sure what you expect? Here's a couple of reasons why:
- A quick Google search shows that Toyota sold 336,978 Camrys in 2019 and that's just in the US. I'd be interested to know if the R3 even came close to that in world wide sales
- Camrys have been around since 1982 so the community has been built up overtime. R3's have only been around since 2015 - that's 33 years longer than the R3!
- R3s are typically a beginner bike so most owners move on to larger bikes, so they don't stick around on the forums.
That’s the one downside to gas stations not being owned by the gas companies here, that variance can be much larger than places where shell for example owns shell stations, but overall I agree with your statementNot in the US, that's what the petroleum companies want you to think. The quality is much higher than it was in the late 80's but it's pretty standard all around if you go to a station that doesn't have fuel sitting for weeks (rural areas).
To add...The reason you don't want to keep ethanol gas in anything that doesn't get used regularly is what is known as "ethanol phase separation." Google image search it...my whole life is cleaning out fuel systems of this crap. Run real gas...you can find at pure-gas or your local track/marina/sunoco.Your neighbor doesn't know **** about pump gas.In the US, t......
I should have touched that point! thanks @airhead83 for the reminder.It may be interesting to see if the new fuel matches or improves your MPG