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figured i'd start a topic on them as i figured i surely can't be the only one attempting them, obviously i understand its not for everyone but a little conversation never hurt nobody ;)

anyway back onto topic, for me personally i can do a decent clutch up if clutch it at about 5k in 1st and just give it a good rev (almost looped it once ahaha), haven't been able to do much in 2nd however but i probably just have poor technique

anyone else got any hints / tips they'd like to share
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I've never attempted clutch ups on this bike, but unbelievably it's so light if you bounce the front and pull back on throttle in 1st or 2nd you can get a small one going.

I found the easiest but also scariest way to get airborne is a small but steep hill. Hard on the gas and a bounce on the suspension and you can get both tires off the ground. My last sport bike was 500 pounds so I could never do that, the R3 is so light it just flies.
First gear clutch wheelies are always fun but I make sure whenever I do one I sit far as back as possible if your up close against the tank most likely you'll slide right back depending how high of a wheelie you get and when I do it I don't pull up from my handle bars instead I pull back this will def. help you get it up better at least from what I experienced. But I usually blip it around 5-6k keeping my hand on a steady throttle and roll on and then off the throttle as I release the clutch in and back out all one motion and be able to ride it about 10-15ft or so just right before it redlines and comes back down. Just Practice some more and get use to the feeling for it, it'll come natural as you progress. Just always remember to keep and your foot on the back brake just incase you 12oclock it. Second gear are a little bit harder to get the tire up as high but it all depends on where your pre load is on your suspension. I prefer having it on 3 to do wheelies but I have mine set at 4 so it's little stiffer making it a little difficult for me to get it up as high. But I blip it at the same rpms and do the exact same steps as I mentioned above but only thing I do different is right as I'm about to pop in the clutch I give a little love tap on the rear brake which creates your suspension to compress tighter in the rear giving you a upward pre load off your front forks thus giving you a higher wheelie in second gear and be able to ride it out longer and higher. Hope this helps!
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Start with the sit downs at first to get your clutch control down. In 1st like ^ he said 5-6k rpms and roll on the throttle. I just straight rev it and dump it. Get used to using your wrist and not your arm for the throttle. It will help later on when you get to do stand ups. For second gear wheelies I hold it wide open and dump. Stand up ( left foot on passenger peg and right foot normal riding position) It's more comfortable to stand on both back pegs, but not safe unless you know what you're doing. Keep your right foot on the right peg and make sure it covers the brake pedal for an oh **** moment. Good luck and maybe I'll make a how to with my gopro for the forum.
I will post a 5 min video explaining how to do wheelies, I just need to go to sleep first. It is nearly 2 in morning. Supposably tou don't need to clutch in on small bikes , you bounch the front up using the throttle and back brake.
I AM NOT GOOD AT WHEELIES. (but dang, they're fun...)
That said, after @ 500 or so miles on my new R3, I decided to try a wheelie. All I did was roll on-off-on the throttle and the front wheel came off the ground @ 10"-12". Rolling off the throttle causes the front suspension to preload (kinda like using the brake). Then grab a handful of throttle and TWIST! Get the rhythm right, and the (preloaded) fork springs help to bounce the front up as your TWIST causes the rear suspension to squat. Then it's just a matter of engine torque lifting the front end AND you balancing the bike up. I've never clutched a wheelie before. Just seems hard on the moving parts. Since then, I've pulled some pretty tall wheelies. I'd say prolly 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock. Riding in front of my mammy once, when we got to the next stop she said she thought I was gonna loop it back there. LOL, I never felt uncomfortable when it came up. Always cover the rear brake, and remember that if you land the wheelie hard, YOU WILL SLAM YOUR TENDER BITS INTO THE TANK.
Technically, that's a power wheelie.

EDIT: it helps if your tank is 1/2 or less full and if you scootch to the back of your seat. Although, I've actually gotten the front wheel pretty high even sitting up against the tank.
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Checkout YouTube.com for some videos showing just about anything. I'm more of a visual person and there are plenty of motorcycle videos for just about everything on YouTube.

EDIT: I will never wheelie or "stunt" any bike as I've seen friends on their bikes go down and an expensive trip to the ER, doctor and ambulance bills, missed days of work, bike damage, and etc.

I would post a pic of what I saw this weekend but I don't want to make anyone sick. A friend did a wheelie on his Honda Grom and lost control of it. He went down and now has a six inch (at least) gash on his inside leg after the chain tensioner cut his leg open. He was only doing 5-10 MPH max.

Good luck and be safe!
Checkout YouTube.com for some videos showing just about anything. I'm more of a visual person and there are plenty of motorcycle videos for just about everything on YouTube.
This isn't a how-to video but shows how easy it can become with lots of practice.

Probably easier for these guys because they are pretty small guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddxHHX9vywk
This isn't a how-to video but shows how easy it can become with lots of practice.

Probably easier for these guys because they are pretty small guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddxHHX9vywk
If you look closely at the bikes, they have HUGE rear sprockets on. A larger rear sprocket will make it much easier to do wheelies. Of course, it will also lower your top speed and kill your gas mileage.
If you look closely at the bikes, they have HUGE rear sprockets on. A larger rear sprocket will make it much easier to do wheelies. Of course, it will also lower your top speed and kill your gas mileage.
Professional stunt team. Probably only ride those bikes for the stunting, then.
Oversized sprockets (more torque), under-inflated tires (bigger foot print) and they're dumping the clutch at higher RPMs (to lift the front wheel at a low speed).

Oh yeah, and mad skillz. I can't do that. But then, I'm more interested in the science of dragging a knee at high speeds. To each his own. These stunters ARE fun to watch though.
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I won't say I know how to do a wheelie but I got pissed one day and dropped the clutch rather aggressively while I was revving from a stoplight, I was able to keep the front up in 1st and 2nd gear till I lifted on the throttle. I thought to myself, Did I just do that? lol
I won't say I know how to do a wheelie but I got pissed one day and dropped the clutch rather aggressively while I was revving from a stoplight, I was able to keep the front up in 1st and 2nd gear till I lifted on the throttle. I thought to myself, Did I just do that? lol
Yeah, that can happen. It can also make you soil yourself! :eek:

The trick is to be able to do it any time you want. That will take a lot of practice..

Risky if you miss on it, though.

In my life, in general, I've had more misses than hits, so I'll leave the wheelies to the younger guys. A 'miss' on a wheelie could spell "Hip Replacement" for me at this point. :(
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Power wheelies are not wheelies
You need to know how balance it at lower throttle openings and bring it back on the brake when out of hand.
Slow speed first gear wheelies are the hardest.


The faster the wheelie starts at, the easier it is to practice as it stays straighter.
Relax ze arms and upper body.


I prefer to pop it up on the change into 2nd, and then not let the speed pick up after that unless going for 3rd which is very hard on 250's,


Uphill is the best place to practice.
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Oversized sprockets (more torque), under-inflated tires (bigger foot print) and they're dumping the clutch at higher RPMs (to lift the front wheel at a low speed).

Oh yeah, and mad skillz. I can't do that. But then, I'm more interested in the science of dragging a knee at high speeds. To each his own. These stunters ARE fun to watch though.
... and full crash cages and rear brake controls on the handlebars and a number of bikes reduced to rubble learning those mad skilz - got a friend who's into it, and he goes through at least one bike a year (don't buy new).
This bike seems really easy to unintentionally wheely, given it's light weight. I don't go out of my way to wheely and the front wheel has definitely felt light. This is the first bike where I have felt that the thing is so wheely happy. My FZ-09 is not even like this.
I read this thread when it was first posted and have just recently been trying to wheelie. I've been going to 5k RPMs, scooting back from the tank and popping the clutch. It's pretty fun even though I don't get too much height and usually roll off the throttle instead of rolling on a bit more. I know this has been discussed on my previous bike forum before but can one expect a lot of wear and tear from doing our bike's low speed wheelies? I couldn't imagine breaking 30 mph since that is about redlining 1st gear. I'm mainly concerned about the clutch on the bike. The small wheelies I've been able to do are pretty gentle when coming down.
Just yesterday I started running 3rd gear stand ups. Run about 5k and clutch it and bounce at the same time while giving a good amount of gas and she will pop right up. Haven't tried 4th gear but I think it could be possible. First street bike I have ever owned but when I was 15 I had a ttr 125 dirtbike and I used to be able to run wheelies for a quarter mile in 4th.
I have never intentionally pulled the front wheel off the ground, but it has happened a few times. Its usually a little bit of a shock when it happens. I have never felt like I was out of control, but when its not what you are trying to do it is not the most comfortable feeling. The first time I ever did it was on my FZ6 and I was clearly not ready for it to happen. Surprise, now pucker up so you dont have to reupholster the seat.
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