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New to the bike purchase scene here and I was just wondering when do manufacturers usually release their new year models? Basically trying to figure out (or decide) if I should wait a little and get a 2015 model cheaper once the 2016 one comes out..
 

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Bikes don't really drop much in price for a new model year, especially in this class. Dealer by me only dropped the price of a 2014 Ninja 300 by $500, which is basically nothing.
 

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Depends on the bike too. Local dealer dropped $1000 off a 2014 Ninja 300 SE OTD when i was checking them out and another offered a 2014 Ninja 300 ABS for $4900 OTD.

Still trying to decide if I need ABS badly enough to pass on the R3.
 

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Im guessing future models will offer ABS since it is already available overseas. And probably a new "Special Edition" graphic/colour package. There's isn't a whole lot they can improve on without raising the price tag. Not that they need to. I think Yamaha nailed this one right off the start. I'd say the only way your going to get one any cheaper is if the dealer is looking to clear some floor space or if you pick one up used because that person wants to upgrade already. Honestly though, I'm more than content with the R3 and don't plan on stepping up to anything bigger any time soon. From what I've heard most people feel the same way.
 

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I agree with everything Genesis92 said above. This is my first bike. I feel it feeds every need I was looking for and have no thoughts about 'upgrading' to a bigger bike. I have through some parts at it to make it 'mine'. I paid $5,900 cash out the door. Reading the 'Cost of the R3' thread seems everyone is paying a few hundred dollars difference from one another which just breaks down to tax, registration, and then dealer prep and shipping fees. Being such a new bike, and demand still high I can't see dealers dropping the prices to much when the '16's come out. If you wait you are just missing out on ride time with only a possibility of savings money.
 

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Thanks for the feedback guys, I will keep all of your comments into consideration.
Although I am really anxious to get my first bike, I really am not in a "hurry" to start riding. Yes I've wanted a bike for YEARS, but money and GF did not let me; plus I have to admit, I was kinda "scared" to start with an R6, and didn't want to start with a "small" bike that (according to a lot or people) I could outgrow pretty fast. So I finally decided to say "F it" and go for it now that the R3 is getting all this good reviews and I love the way the bike looks. With that said, a few more weeks/months of wait does not bother me.
Now onto my next question. How much does having the M license (course) help/drop the price on insurance?.. Should I get it before the purchase to save me some $, or it will not make that big of a difference?
I understand a lot of factors will apply. Like insurance Co., driving record, etc, etc..
I am in Austin, Tx, 38 years old with a clean driving record (so you have an idea). I have read a thread about insurance here in the forum, and understand ALL the different quotes people have gotten, and the best thing to do is for ME to call around, but basically my question is: how much does having the M license help?
Insurance Co recommendations are welcome here in Austin. I have my car with State Farm.
Again Thanks for the previous feedback, and thanks in advance.
 

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A nice compromise between the R3 and the R6 is a FZ6R. I had a 2012 FZ6R that I traded for a new Star Bolt when those came out back in in 2014.
The FZ6R has a lot more power than the R3, but is very forgiving of mistakes....unlike a R6.
Looking back, I might should have bought another FZ6R than a R3. Don't get me wrong...I love my R3....but I do miss being able to two-up ride with my wife on that FZ6R.
My local dealer was blowing out his remaining new 2014 FZ6Rs for $5599 (just add tax and license fees) a while back. That was a **** of a great deal that I wish I would have taken advantage of!!
The FZ6R is a little "long in the tooth", but it's still winning shootout reviews. It's a fantastic all around bike!!






http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/middleweight-intermediate-sportbike-shootout-video

"That leaves the Yamaha FZ6R. Winner of this test in 2010, and the champ of this (2014) comparison, you could say the FZ6R has aged gracefully. Its perfect combination of power, handling, practicality and user-friendliness made it a hard combo to beat four years ago, and it’s still hard to beat today. Granted, its styling could use a little help, but if you’re a believer in function before form, then give the Yamaha serious consideration."
 

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I am in Austin, Tx, 38 years old with a clean driving record (so you have an idea). I have read a thread about insurance here in the forum, and understand ALL the different quotes people have gotten, and the best thing to do is for ME to call around, but basically my question is: how much does having the M license help?
You are 38. Your insurance will be cheap. Call Progressive, they are the cheapest on motorcycles for mature riders and can tell you about any discounts.
 

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I have the smallest bike out of everyone I ride with. A mix of 1300cc cruisers, 1000cc adventure bikes, super sports, etc. So far I've never had an issue "keeping up" or have I ever felt under powered. Even at a more than legal group pace. And the R3 does it with ease. It never felt like I was giving it all its got to keep pace. 6th gear cruising at 7000-8000 rpm with lots left for passing. It's all the bike I'll ever "need". If super long distance travels, 2 up riding or if your a substantially larger person then this may not be the bike for you.
 

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Thanks for the feedback guys, I will keep all of your comments into consideration.
Although I am really anxious to get my first bike, I really am not in a "hurry" to start riding. Yes I've wanted a bike for YEARS, but money and GF did not let me; plus I have to admit, I was kinda "scared" to start with an R6, and didn't want to start with a "small" bike that (according to a lot or people) I could outgrow pretty fast. So I finally decided to say "F it" and go for it now that the R3 is getting all this good reviews and I love the way the bike looks. With that said, a few more weeks/months of wait does not bother me.
Now onto my next question. How much does having the M license (course) help/drop the price on insurance?.. Should I get it before the purchase to save me some $, or it will not make that big of a difference?
I understand a lot of factors will apply. Like insurance Co., driving record, etc, etc..
I am in Austin, Tx, 38 years old with a clean driving record (so you have an idea). I have read a thread about insurance here in the forum, and understand ALL the different quotes people have gotten, and the best thing to do is for ME to call around, but basically my question is: how much does having the M license help?
Insurance Co recommendations are welcome here in Austin. I have my car with State Farm.
Again Thanks for the previous feedback, and thanks in advance.
I have State Farm. Been with them for over 30 years. Since you have your car with them, they will give you a discount on both your car and an added motorcycle as part of a multi-line discount.

I've compared other companies, including Progressive, but they were all significantly more expensive

I pay $11.31 a month for very good, high level coverage, including $2,500 in accessories.
 

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I think we all got sidetracked by all the good info, but the "main" question has not been answered yet.
Wen do the new models (2016) usually come out?
 

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I think we all got sidetracked by all the good info, but the "main" question has not been answered yet.
Wen do the new models (2016) usually come out?
Yamaha's SuperSports models generally hit the showrooms each January in the U.S.

R3 was delayed by the West Coast dock strikes this year.
 

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I have the smallest bike out of everyone I ride with. A mix of 1300cc cruisers, 1000cc adventure bikes, super sports, etc. So far I've never had an issue "keeping up" or have I ever felt under powered. Even at a more than legal group pace. And the R3 does it with ease. It never felt like I was giving it all its got to keep pace. 6th gear cruising at 7000-8000 rpm with lots left for passing. It's all the bike I'll ever "need". If super long distance travels, 2 up riding or if your a substantially larger person then this may not be the bike for you.
I want it to ride with my GF in the back. She is not that big actually and I am 5'10 200lbs. Do you think it would feel too much under powered?? :(

New to the bike purchase scene here and I was just wondering when do manufacturers usually release their new year models? Basically trying to figure out (or decide) if I should wait a little and get a 2015 model cheaper once the 2016 one comes out..
There in the US I don't really know but here in Costa Rica, Central America they will come on October, 2015 (That's when I'll be receiving mine and I feel I can't wait lol).
I guess you should be receiving the 2016 around the same date. :D
 

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I dont think power will be the issue. The R3 has a very usable rpm range and builds decent power early. I think the suspension would be the weak point. I am 160lbs and the preload on mine is set to 6 just for me. 1 less than max I think. I havnt had anyone on the back yet but even turned all the way up I dont think it will handle the big bumps very well. Also, if you've ever sat back there you'll realize its not a nice place to be for any extended period of time.
 

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2016 bikes come out in 2016,
otherwise the plate would say 2015.

You would feel a bit ripped in 2017 when a buyer showed you your '2016' was actually 2015 on the compliance plate, paperwork, and the build date on the Yamaha ID plate
and you couldn't dispute it and have to drop $1000 off the value.
 

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2016 bikes come out in 2016,
otherwise the plate would say 2015.

You would feel a bit ripped in 2017 when a buyer showed you your '2016' was actually 2015 on the compliance plate, paperwork, and the build date on the Yamaha ID plate
and you couldn't dispute it and have to drop $1000 off the value.
It's a little bit different in the U.S.

1.) 2016 KTM models have been in dealer's showrooms here since early June.
KTM is always the first with next year's bikes available.

2.) Most brands have some Early Release models.

3.) For example, Yamaha is releasing the 2016 FZ-07 here in August and the 2016 FZ-09 in September. Also, the 2016 Bolt is already being sold here, since July.

4.) Suzuki is releasing the 2016 GSX-S1000 in late Sept. and the 2016 Bandit 1250 and 2016 TU250X are in showrooms right now

5.) Kawasaki is releasing the 2016 Z800 in Sept.

The reason for the early releases here is that it's peak summer riding season here now, whereas in Jan/Feb/March it's Winter, so they want to get the bikes sold now while demand is high.
 

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That only applies with MX and enduro racebikes here,
in thee old days they had major updates, now its almost just decals.

USA is going to have to realise that bikes have aa longet model runs now,
its not like '56 chevy. 57 chevy, 58 chevy where bodyshapes changed a fair bit haha.

eg the 2013 Ninja is the generation out now, The 2015 R1 will go for the next few yrs as its a new generation.
The R3 will probably go another 3-4 yrs without change except colour and the build date.
 
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