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Currently ride a cbr250,put 10,000 miles on it in a little less than a year, all my riding friends said that I would get bored and want more, and now I do. ?
 

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I think it would be a good question to ask, if the R3 will be enough of an upgrade from a 250 cc Honda cbr.
acceleration differences are minimal, top speed is about 20 miles an hour faster, that's about the only improvement to expect.
For a faster experience than a CBR250R, a CBR 600 or 650 Cc would be recommended.

A 320 might give you a tad more power, but if you're looking for more, you might get bored after jist a month or two.
 

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My first bike was a CBR250 and I loved it up until I needed to pass or overtake someone on the road or freeway. It just didn't have the power to get from 60 - 80 in a timely manner.

The R3 on the other hand has plenty of power and I can overtake in 6th gear no problem. I can also say it gets from 0-60 alot faster then the CBR250 did!!!

The R3 is a mix between my 250 and 500, it's the best of both. Light Weight and Enough Power!!!
 

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The r3 can overtake in 6th gear means it's hopelessly undergeared for day to day use.
It's geared lower than most 250cc bikes, acceleration at cost of mpg.
I've been looking at that, and for me to get normal acceleration out of the R3 will be very hard.
Upgear by 50% seems necessary, which is quite a lot.

The cbr can have acceleration in top gear, when you'd downgear it.
But then you won't have the top speed, because of its lower rev limit, nor the mpg.

Any bike that gets over 75mpg would accelerate slow.
There's just so much energy that you can get out of fuel.
 

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The only minor complaint I have with my bike is freeway cruising, don't want or need a 600.I want an R3.I looked long and hard at a new zx6r,but always come back to "light and tight".
 

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The r3 can overtake in 6th gear means it's hopelessly undergeared for day to day use.
It's geared lower than most 250cc bikes, acceleration at cost of mpg.
I've been looking at that, and for me to get normal acceleration out of the R3 will be very hard.
Upgear by 50% seems necessary, which is quite a lot.

The cbr can have acceleration in top gear, when you'd downgear it.
But then you won't have the top speed, because of its lower rev limit, nor the mpg.
I don't think R3 was planned as a mpg effecient commuter.
Suzuki GW250, on the hand, is exactly that - fuel saving, somewhat boring dynamics bike.
 

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I don't think R3 was planned as a mpg effecient commuter.
Suzuki GW250, on the hand, is exactly that - fuel saving, somewhat boring dynamics bike.
I realize that.
It is however, the only bike that AND meets up with my weight requirements of sub 400LBS, AND has the 300+CC needed to keep up on the interstates over here (doing 80MPH).


I think it'll take quite some heavy gearing mods to make it somewhat eco friendly; but I think it's possible.


The only other bike would be a Ninja300, but I like this one better.
 

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I'd look into a CBR500 honestly. If you go 2014 model, you can get a price very close to the R3.

If you want something light, easy to flick around, AND POWER, but not panic power, FZ07 is an awesome motorcycle from Yamaha. Once you go that way, your mind will be completely blown (seriously). But of course, that is if you are ok with naked bike styling... BUT you will need to get a windscreen for freeway riding.

IMO if you have 10k miles on the 250 and you are looking to upgrade, I wouldn't upgrade onto a R3. Not worth it imo. And you will be more than prepared for the FZ07. But if not, I'll once again toss you the CBR500 route.

Unless you just want to say on the lower cc end and just want something shiny and new, then I understand. R3 will work.
 

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I already told you that I was seriously considering a 636, that should tell you something, sorry, but somehow I always come back to "light and tight", what don't you get? I wouldn't buy new, but dang the R3 looks sweet, pushes all the right buttons for me.
 

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Oh I get it. ZX6r weighs what, 450lb wet? R3 weighs 370lb. FZ07 weighs 397 and is shorter than the R3 and twice the power. When you said light and tight, the FZ07 fit the bill in my mind. I own both the FZ07 and R3 and the FZ07 can be tossed around slightly easier because it was designed for city/urban road maneuverability. Being "light and tight" was specifically what the FZ07 was built for.

Well, I tried to offer you a suggestion, but apparently you weren't looking for suggestions and just making a declaration that you want a R3. My mistake. If even after 10k miles on the 250cc, you still feel you need to stay on a 300 cc range bike, by all means, go for it.
 

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Just saying, after spending some seat time on a 636, don't know how you can compare any other middleweight. I am open minded though.
 

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I traded my FZ07 in on an R3. I only put 1900 miles on the FZ07. It was a very good bike with lots of torque and of course does highway speeds very well. Only thing I didn't like about mine was the seat ht. and weight. No, 398 lbs. isn't heavy, but along with the taller seat, I would get cramps in my hips once I stopped and put my feet down at traffic lights. 30 lbs. makes a huge difference along with the lower seat of the R3. The other reason I traded the FZ07 in was that I have another red naked bike...the CB300F, so I wanted another color. I also have a Zero S with loads of torque so I can get my torque fix whenever I want.

To me, the R3 is an outstanding highway commuter. That's what it does best. If you do a lot of highway riding, it would be an excellent choice. Better than the CBR300R or the Ninja 300? Maybe not. I probably wouldn't trade in a CBR250R for an R3, but the R3 will be noticeably faster and have better acceleration from 40 mph on up. The R3 hugs the road at 85 mph very well. I took mine up to 95 mph briefly and it was still well-planted and purring. It got there quickly too. My preference for a city bike is the CB300F with the same engine as the CBR300R, but naked, lighter, and with a more up-right riding position. Any of these 250/300 bikes will work for both city, commuting by highway, or riding twisties. The 300s are faster and don't work as hard as the 250s at 80 mph, but whether that's worth going from a 250 to a 300 is hard to say. My 2012 Ninja 250r wasn't very well planted on the highway going 80 mph and while it did that speed easily, the little engine seemed to be working pretty hard. The 300s have wider rear tires which might be part of the improvement with stability at higher speeds too.
 
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