Your opinions-CRG + Pazzo levers, Rizoma?

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R0b0tN1nja_BKNY

Discussion Starter · Dec 13, 2015

So I want to upgrade the brakes:

Get Core Moto/Galfer/Speigler brake lines & brake pads (Glafer? BEC?). I have other priorities but down the lines cool looking Glafer wave rotos would be nice (if I have the discretionary income) along with HardR's Brembo caliper upgrade kit. For the time being lines & pad should help a bit with better pressure and better aftermarket pads.

So reading HardRacing's, Kojiiro's, et al's threads on Brembo's Master CYlinder upgrades/ft brake lever has made me think that is a worthy upgrade too. I was interested in getting better levers over the stock ones, but if I get a Brembo brake lever and clutch lever, what;s the point in spending $170 on CRG levers? Anyone recommend just going with new levers, brake pads, and brake lines or jump on the Brembo Master Cylinder too?

Also, I have always used long levers, anyone prefer shorty on both or one lever?

Also, read some people saying CRG levers interferred with the their banjo bolts-seems strange that would happen. Anyone tried Pazzo's? Read some dudes swearing for Pazzos over CRG. Anyway have 2 cents to chip in?

Rizoma has some beautiful reservoirs. I'm not a huge fan of plastic reservoirs. I love polycarbonite and aluminum reservoirs available in the computer watercooling space which Rizoma has similar versions of. Is it vaporware?

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Kojiiro

· #2 · Dec 13, 2015

I've had rizoma parts on my bike. Very expensive stuff imo and I don't normally buy stuff that's expensive just for looks. Previous owner had it already so yeah. The quality is good though.

Waves rotors are a waste of money for me f it's just for looks.

If I were you I wouldn't buy new levers because it sounds like you want the master cylinder.

Going back to what I posted before, I suggest the SS lines along with a brake bleed first. If that's not enough, a new set of pads. Again, a few racers are running only SS lines and Vesrah pads. If it's stopping power is good enough for them, should be good for the average street/track rider. Line, levers and pads are going to help a lot more than just a bit.

I will also mention when I changed my line, I also grabbed a cheapo set of levers. I like my lever really far away from th bar and oem isnt adjustable. I also had to replace the clutch lever anyways.

I prefer shorties but don't mind long ones.

There is absolutely no point in getting a bigger master (15mm or 5/8) if you are keeping the stock calipers. It's really going to make the brakes feel wooden.

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R0b0tN1nja_BKNY

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 13, 2015

Kojiiro said:
I've had rizoma parts on my bike. Very expensive stuff imo and I don't normally buy stuff that's expensive just for looks. Previous owner had it already so yeah. The quality is good though.

Waves rotors are a waste of money for me f it's just for looks.

If I were you I wouldn't buy new levers because it sounds like you want the master cylinder.

Going back to what I posted before, I suggest the SS lines along with a brake bleed first. If that's not enough, a new set of pads. Again, a few racers are running only SS lines and Vesrah pads. If it's stopping power is good enough for them, should be good for the average street/track rider. Line, levers and pads are going to help a lot more than just a bit.

I will also mention when I changed my line, I also grabbed a cheapo set of levers. I like my lever really far away from th bar and oem isnt adjustable. I also had to replace the clutch lever anyways.

I prefer shorties but don't mind long ones.

There is absolutely no point in getting a bigger master (15mm or 5/8) if you are keeping the stock calipers. It's really going to make the brakes feel wooden.

Yeah already ordered the SS brake lines which should help stopping power. I got Driven bar end and new Driven D3 gel grips. I was going to change the levers while changing these out. I might get some better brake pads. Going to hold off on the levers to see if I get the Brembo RC14 Master Cylinder and res; hope Brembo releases a matching clutch lever to go with it otherwise, it would bother me to have non-matching levers. If I don't go with the Brembo, I'll just upgrade the levers to some CRG RC2 or Spectrum levers.

Yeah, the Wave rotors are pricey and a ostensibly a waste, but maybe I'll do them anyway, especially if I upgrade the calipers to Brembo, but there are still a lot of more important parts to get-still have to get a full exhaust, PCV, front fork cartridges and a rear shock with reservoir-boosting the power a bit and improving the ride is way more important than an aesthetically pleasing brake rotor.

If I had enough money to waste, I would get Black Stone carbon fiber rims for the R3 which would run about $4,000!

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Kojiiro

· #4 · Dec 13, 2015

Why a 14mm cylinder? If you are spending $300+ on a cylinder, do it right, get the 15mm and put a 4 piston caliper on it. The stock cylinder is matched correctly for the calipers IMO.

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ratlab

· #5 · Dec 16, 2015

i put speigler lines, vesrah pads,a galfer rotor, cause she wanted it , on my wifes bike and bled the crap out the lines.brakes are good enough for the track.she also has crg levers -no problem on the R3.i have used both crg and pazzo levers on bikes.both are very good quality,but i think crg is still the benchmark.

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R0b0tN1nja_BKNY

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 18, 2015

ratlab said:
i put speigler lines, vesrah pads,a galfer rotor, cause she wanted it , on my wifes bike and bled the crap out the lines.brakes are good enough for the track.she also has crg levers -no problem on the R3.i have used both crg and pazzo levers on bikes.both are very good quality,but i think crg is still the benchmark.

Yeah, I already ordered the Speigler brake lines. Going to do something similar. get some Galfer or Vesrah pads. Might get Galfer rotors but definitely need to do exhaust, PC5, front fork cartridges and rear shock first. Might do the Brembo master cylinder RC15 upgrade with the brake line & brake pad upgrades, and get the matching Brembo clutch lever.

My first orders have been for security and aesthetic stuff: Scorpio Ride/Secure set me back $460, and got a Xena lock and Dowco cover. Ordered R&G radiator guard, Driven bar ends and grips, Vortex spools, Vortex rear stand, Vagabond FE kit, Tyga CNC rearsets, and Driven relocation brackets. All that added up. I'll spend the winter getting that stuff on and order the rest in February and hopefully get the full exhaust, PC5, and front fork carts and JRI rear shock installed for March riding when it starts to get warm some days in NY!

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