YSS PiggyBack Basic Shock -- Very Inexpensive!

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FangShui

Discussion Starter · Aug 30, 2015 (Edited)

$297.00 shipped

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shock-YSS-M...R3-R25-Sale-/151796948634?hash=item2357cd9e9a

Piggyback style, 275mm long, 30mm piston/12mm shaft, Threaded Ring Pre-load adjustable only. Likely to be superior to the stock shock.

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Stirz

· #2 · Aug 30, 2015

Less than the cost of the OEM.....

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Capitalview

· #3 · Aug 30, 2015

It worries me that they don't show it mounted to the bike. Just curious about interference with that reservoir.

Yeah, I know, I'm a fear monger... >

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FangShui

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 30, 2015 (Edited)

Capitalview said:
It worries me that they don't show it mounted to the bike. Just curious about interference with that reservoir.

Yeah, I know, I'm a fear monger... >

Nah, that's a legitimate concern.

I just emailed YSS USA for an answewr to your question about that, and to see if there are other YSS shocks they would recommended instead for the R3.

Answer tomorrow, hopefully.

Cheers!

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sendler

· #5 · Aug 30, 2015

It would also be interesting to find out if the end could be removed and the rod cut down and rethreaded for people that are looking to lower the bike instead of using that rinky dink shock that they are using now.
And get the remote reservoir version with compression and rebound adjustment.

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FangShui

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 30, 2015

sendler said:
It would also be interesting to find out if the end could be removed and the rod cut down and rethreaded for people that are looking to lower the bike instead of using that rinky dink shock that they are using now.
And get the remote reservoir version with compression and rebound adjustment.

I've asked them about a lowering shock that would fit the R3, too. Their shocks come in many lengths...

Answers tomorrow, most likely.

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Aufitt

· #7 · Aug 31, 2015

FangShui said:
$297.00 shipped

pre load adjustable only. Likely to be superior to the stock shock.

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No dampening adjustment, chances of china getting it right are eleventy billion to one.
Standard would be better.

Change for change sake on bikes rarely works better than OEM.

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FangShui

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 31, 2015

Aufitt said:
No dampening adjustment, chances of china getting it right are eleventy billion to one.
Standard would be better.

Change for change sake on bikes rarely works better than OEM.

YSS is actually a Thai company, started in 1988. They build high end shocks (at reasonable prices because of their location) and are highly respected globally.

Since 2001 they've had QS 9000 and ISO 9002 Certification from TÜV Rhineland / Berlin Brandenburg in Germany.

Their R&D and testing is done in Australia and products are built to German TÜV and Japanese Standards.

At the beginning of 2005, Offline Racing Australia was recruited by YSS to develop a new generation of gas shocks. Walter Preisig (Y.S.S. Australia) has been developing racing suspension in Australia for over 25 years.

Later in the same year, Harry Essen, well known as the father of Low Speed/High Speed Gas Shocks and the former owner of Technoflex in Holland joined YSS.

Their professional race team won in the Australian Championships, Thailand Championships, Japan Championships and other national racing programs.

They've recently been moving into the global market.

Sometimes it pays to do the research first..................

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pattonme

· #9 · Sep 8, 2015

YSS has 2 'proper' R3 applications. Use those instead. MZ366-275TRL-12 and -275TRCL. The cost differential is negligible. The piggyback 275TRWL is designed for the R25 but might not fit the R3. Might need some undertail/batterybox surgery.

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pattonme

· #10 · Sep 8, 2015

> Change for change sake on bikes rarely works better than OEM.

OEM is the cheapest piece of **** the manufacturer could get out of their supplier. That goes in spades for suspension and brakes. Now if you're talking a $15,000+ bike things are different but even then cutting corners isn't unknown.

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sendler

· #11 · Sep 8, 2015

pattonme said:
YSS has 2 'proper' R3 applications. Use those instead. MZ366-275TRL-12 and -275TRCL.

How much is the TRCL?

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FangShui

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 8, 2015

https://bikerzbits.com/mx366-275trcl-yss-yamaha-r3-yzf.html

https://bikerzbits.com/mz366-275trl-yss-yamaha-r3-yzf.html

And an Ohlins

https://bikerzbits.com/o-hlins-r25-3-shock-absorbers.html

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Maven

· #13 · Sep 8, 2015

FangShui said:
Since 2001 they've had QS 9000 and ISO 9002 Certification from TÜV Rhineland / Berlin Brandenburg in Germany.

TUV handling their certification is nothing to scoff at... I've spent a good bit of time arguing with TUV over the years.. they're very... 'dtailed'.. folks.

Odd they have 9002, instead of 9001 which covers the NPI processes for new products... but maybe that is because, like you said, development is handled elsewhere.

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pattonme

· #14 · Sep 8, 2015

To me ISO9001 means nothing - all it proves is that the recipient has reliable documentation and a verifiable and repeatable process to produce utter junk, or maybe fantastic stuff. It has no bearing on the quality of the output and indeed that isn't even part of the evaluation.

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Maven

· #15 · Sep 8, 2015

Utterly incorrect. ISO9001 from a responsible notified body would mean you have a feedback loop for defects found during the entire lifecycle of the product - including customer feedback.

ISO9001 from someone other than the big names in notified bodies... well.. is worthless.

On a higher level.. .a company that treats it like a 'must have just to gain certain parts of the market' instead of a business management system...well... they're just not gonna do all that well.

pattonme said:
To me ISO9001 means nothing - all it proves is that the recipient has reliable documentation and a verifiable and repeatable process to produce utter junk, or maybe fantastic stuff. It has no bearing on the quality of the output and indeed that isn't even part of the evaluation.

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pattonme

· #16 · Sep 8, 2015

another source for export-grade YSS shocks is Paul at Link Associates: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Link-Associates-CoLtd/472407289538498
081 808 5775. Also http://www.redbaronbkk.com/ can order them. No experience with either.

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Aufitt

· #17 · Sep 9, 2015

No point wasting money on a non adjustable shock, when the r3 already has one.

If I was good enough to justify a new shock (Am only a C grade racer) i'd get this-
http://www.racingbros.com/en/products/detail/27

They may be supplying me one in the future.

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Piperman

· #18 · Sep 11, 2015

What is the price on one of these? Also where can one order one from?

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t-rav_12

· #19 · Sep 15, 2015

I din't see the price listed there, Aufitt. Have you guys seen the ohlins shock at KD Racing Project that Stirz and I bought? I think I paid $647(?), shipped from Thailand. It's fully adjustable.

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FangShui

Discussion Starter · #20 · Sep 15, 2015

This YSS one is fully adjustable, too, and only $377.86 plus shipping.

https://bikerzbits.com/mx366-275trcl-yss-yamaha-r3-yzf.html

Shipping to the U.S. is:
Thailand Post Surface Mail ~ 2 - 3 Months $31.04
Thailand Post SAL (Economy Airmail) ~ 1 Month $52.36
Thailand Post Airmail ~ 5-14 days $80.70

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